RE: Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R: Spotted
Discussion
TameRacingDriver said:
Honda NSX is over 20 years old and looks more modern than that, TBH.
+1 - NSX looks terrific, especially now. There was a lovely one at Brands Hatch at the BTCC opener this year, forgot how small they were (Mk2 MR2 size!), and incredibly low and lithe. Only 3 on the PH Classifieds at time of writing... sad!Krikkit said:
k-ink said:
To use it would be madness. There are loads of used examples for that purpose. Buy it, store it, watch it double in price.
This - if you have any hopes of retaining some of that £50k it needs wrapping in cotton wool.TameRacingDriver said:
I remember a PHer who went from an Evo to a standard R34 was very disappointed with the Nissan, said it didn't feel quick, nor did it seem to handle that well, and ended up in another Evo.
From what I've read, the reality never lived up to the hype with these things, unless you tuned the hell out of it, which of course, most people who get them do.
I'll take the proper GT-R, I agree with the others, the R34 hasn't aged well.
This is where a lot of people don't realise that Nissan released these with the intention of people to do some bolt-on's after purchase, they were the same as the MKIV Supra in the fact that they were supposed to have some basic bolt'ons(for £500-£1k) that completely transform the car and boost the power significantly, it was all to do with Nissan and Toyota essentially having to de-tune the cars to get around regulations for a new car.From what I've read, the reality never lived up to the hype with these things, unless you tuned the hell out of it, which of course, most people who get them do.
I'll take the proper GT-R, I agree with the others, the R34 hasn't aged well.
In regard to handling, Nissan actually worked with one of the tuners(Cusco or Tein I believe) before the car was released, so people could bolt coilovers on straight away, which again, significantly improved the cars.
This is why the tuners will always love the japanese Godzilla's(Skylines, Supra's, RX7s, etc) because they are always designed with the intention of aftermarket tuning.
SimonSaid said:
If we're talking which GTR was the best looking, I've long thought the R32 was the most well-proportioned and subtle looking, if you can find one unmolested (or de-molest one, if you're brave...) 
Any excuse to post a picture. 
Completely standard bar the wheels (I'm looking for some decent originals) and exhaust. Taken yesterday evening:
Edited by Andy616 on Tuesday 28th May 21:44
Marc p said:
TameRacingDriver said:
I remember a PHer who went from an Evo to a standard R34 was very disappointed with the Nissan, said it didn't feel quick, nor did it seem to handle that well, and ended up in another Evo.
From what I've read, the reality never lived up to the hype with these things, unless you tuned the hell out of it, which of course, most people who get them do.
I'll take the proper GT-R, I agree with the others, the R34 hasn't aged well.
This is where a lot of people don't realise that Nissan released these with the intention of people to do some bolt-on's after purchase, they were the same as the MKIV Supra in the fact that they were supposed to have some basic bolt'ons(for £500-£1k) that completely transform the car and boost the power significantly, it was all to do with Nissan and Toyota essentially having to de-tune the cars to get around regulations for a new car.From what I've read, the reality never lived up to the hype with these things, unless you tuned the hell out of it, which of course, most people who get them do.
I'll take the proper GT-R, I agree with the others, the R34 hasn't aged well.
In regard to handling, Nissan actually worked with one of the tuners(Cusco or Tein I believe) before the car was released, so people could bolt coilovers on straight away, which again, significantly improved the cars.
This is why the tuners will always love the japanese Godzilla's(Skylines, Supra's, RX7s, etc) because they are always designed with the intention of aftermarket tuning.
These cars were designed to be tuned. IIRC the Supra engine could take 600 bhp on standard internals.
It was to get around the 'gentlemans agreement' that the Japanese car industy had to limit power to about 276 bhp.
Andy616 said:
Any excuse to post a picture.
Completely standard bar the wheels (I'm looking for some decent originals) and exhaust. Taken yesterday evening:
It is a great simple design. I love the clean line along the edge which runs completely straight from the headlight cluster to the rear spoiler.Completely standard bar the wheels (I'm looking for some decent originals) and exhaust. Taken yesterday evening:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
NomduJour said:
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
What a silly argument.As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
And then provide examples where used previous generation models have sold for the same amount as new current models.
And remember we aren't talking about limited number Italian exotica here.
V8RX7 said:
Enlighten me.
And then provide examples where used previous generation models have sold for the same amount as new current models.
And remember we aren't talking about limited number Italian exotica here.
Point of a Skyline is to be a large-ish family car in Japan. GT-R's "fastest car OMG LOL" stuff seems to come largely from people who only know of it via Gran Turismo. Desirability and relatively low numbers made mean good BNR34s are still in demand. Not so surprising to see a price like that for a delivery-mileage one given its rarity.And then provide examples where used previous generation models have sold for the same amount as new current models.
And remember we aren't talking about limited number Italian exotica here.
Yep, it would be more accurate to say the point of the Skyline GTR is to go fast. As above, the Skyline in isolation is just a large saloon car.
Edit: Despite knowing this, the word "Skyline" IS evocative for me, it perks my automotive sensors just as much as hearing the words "Ferrari" or "Cosworth" does.
Edit: Despite knowing this, the word "Skyline" IS evocative for me, it perks my automotive sensors just as much as hearing the words "Ferrari" or "Cosworth" does.
Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 21st May 13:14
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
You don't think this will sell for 50k? If it sells for 50 its worth 50As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
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