RE: Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R: Spotted
Discussion
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
I dont agree a good R34 will set you back £28k at least, the prices have gone up in recent years , but £50k not so sure perhaps thats why this one has been around a while As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
V8RX7 said:
NomduJour said:
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
What a silly argument.As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
And then provide examples where used previous generation models have sold for the same amount as new current models.
And remember we aren't talking about limited number Italian exotica here.
1000TCR said:
V8RX7 said:
NomduJour said:
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
What a silly argument.As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
And then provide examples where used previous generation models have sold for the same amount as new current models.
And remember we aren't talking about limited number Italian exotica here.
TommyBuoy said:
1000TCR said:
V8RX7 said:
NomduJour said:
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
What a silly argument.As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
And then provide examples where used previous generation models have sold for the same amount as new current models.
And remember we aren't talking about limited number Italian exotica here.
Of the two, I prefer the R34 but I wouldn't go for this one. Id probably go for one with higher mileage as i'd want to drive it.
To be honest though, put either of those next to a well-sorted R32 and id pick the older car everytime.
Nice to see a standard R34 though, must be a very rare thing now.
To be honest though, put either of those next to a well-sorted R32 and id pick the older car everytime.
Nice to see a standard R34 though, must be a very rare thing now.
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
The point of Skylines and indeed a lot of other cars isn't just to go fast, unless you are 12 years old of course. On paper stats often have very little bearing on what makes an older car worth more than a new one. As for examples of other cars, I guess you haven't heard of a little company called Porsche.As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
The R35 is a very good car but I can very easily see a point when looked after R34's will be worth more, in fact it's starting to happen now. The fact that the R34 is rarer and for many a boyhood dream will mean that prices for those will hold up much better than the newer one. The R34 has become a modern classic, the R35 isn't.
Given the choice of the two I'd take a late unmolested R34 Nur spec over a R35 any day. It might not be as quick but it will certainly be quick enough, enjoyable to drive and in 5 years time, the R34 will be worth a lot more than an R35.
Marc p said:
TommyBuoy said:
1000TCR said:
V8RX7 said:
NomduJour said:
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
What a silly argument.As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
And then provide examples where used previous generation models have sold for the same amount as new current models.
And remember we aren't talking about limited number Italian exotica here.
V8RX7 said:
NomduJour said:
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
What a silly argument.As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
And then provide examples where used previous generation models have sold for the same amount as new current models.
And remember we aren't talking about limited number Italian exotica here.
I know of some BNR32s that have already been 'laid down' like fine wines for future drinking, again in Japan.
Some of the early cars are just as rare and collectable as "limited number Italian exotica"....
F1GTRUeno said:
I'd never take an R35 over any of the earlier iterations.
Love the R34.
Also think it deserves to be driven. Sad when it's only got 600 miles on it. Sod leaving it be and watching it appreciate in value, it'll never see the roads that way and it'll just rot.
What he said Love the R34.
Also think it deserves to be driven. Sad when it's only got 600 miles on it. Sod leaving it be and watching it appreciate in value, it'll never see the roads that way and it'll just rot.
Had an R33 and loved it, never liked the 34's then, but they have really grown on me over the last couple of years. It will be my next car, once I've saved the pennies. I'll undoubtably want a R35 in time as well.
[pic]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h254/Dinkel_photos/DSR09/P5038808.jpg[pic]
Redsub: R32 for sale > http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/n...
Epic car: warpspeed weapon.
Redsub: R32 for sale > http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/n...
Epic car: warpspeed weapon.
Doubt they will get £50K, but I suppose while classics are in a bubble (again) I can see why they ask so much, that is the only good thing about a bubble all the good stuff comes out of the woodwork as people look to capitalise on a bit of luck.
I always liked the look of the R32, I am sure the 33, 34... are better cars, but I will run out of courage long before an R32 runs out of talent, so for me I would prefer an R32.
I always liked the look of the R32, I am sure the 33, 34... are better cars, but I will run out of courage long before an R32 runs out of talent, so for me I would prefer an R32.
Dagnut said:
V8RX7 said:
The entire point of a Skyline is to go fast.
As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
You don't think this will sell for 50k? If it sells for 50 its worth 50As the new one goes much faster then how is the older slower one worth anything like the same amount ?
In 100 years I'll agree that a 100yr R35 might be worth the same as a 105yr R34 but right now realistically it's worth (ie what you could get at auction) less than £20k
The interesting bit comes when classics stop appreciating, some people are buying now with an expectation of increasing value, once values stop increasing and that expectation is taken away...
Edited by GrizzlyBear on Tuesday 21st May 16:33
TankRS said:
I just hope a collector/enthusiast spots this and picks it up before it gets bought and turned into a time attack/drift machine
Zero chance of that. As for the price - good GT-Rs are often worth more in Japan than here in any case, and I suspect that one won't be leaving Garage Defend until someone over here pays for it (lots of "importers" just reuse Japanese ads speculatively).Cant seem to suss out picture posting on here?!
R34 Z-tune for me. To be driven and to mostly likely give the R35 a run for it's money AND retain value.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xEDY5bPWk-Q/TKKghQkpahI/...
http://images2.alphacoders.com/116/116872.jpg
http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/201...
From recollection Nissan will still convert standard GTR's - this is a full nut and bolt restoration.
Although will most likely cost more than £50k !
R34 Z-tune for me. To be driven and to mostly likely give the R35 a run for it's money AND retain value.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xEDY5bPWk-Q/TKKghQkpahI/...
http://images2.alphacoders.com/116/116872.jpg
http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/201...
From recollection Nissan will still convert standard GTR's - this is a full nut and bolt restoration.
Although will most likely cost more than £50k !
Fresh R34s are worth lots, if nothing else because not many were made in the first place.
I personally really like the R32, and it isn't just about going as fast as possible. There's a great driving feel to be had from a Skyline, the degree of modification that can be done only diversifies how different cars drive. Mine's conservative on the power (450) but huge on brakes and fully upgraded suspension, massive amount of grip. Get the straight 6 turbo wail going and there's not much to match the fun. That's what it is all about!
I personally really like the R32, and it isn't just about going as fast as possible. There's a great driving feel to be had from a Skyline, the degree of modification that can be done only diversifies how different cars drive. Mine's conservative on the power (450) but huge on brakes and fully upgraded suspension, massive amount of grip. Get the straight 6 turbo wail going and there's not much to match the fun. That's what it is all about!
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