Best of the Bargain Basement Vol. 2
Discussion
l354uge said:
Anyone here owned a 9-5 before?
Interested in get a 9-5 hot aero estate next year.
Any big issues, mpg?, what's it like to drive etc
On my second currently, first was an early 2000 9-5 Aero Estate, current is a 2010 9-5 Anniversary Estate, both manuals.Interested in get a 9-5 hot aero estate next year.
Any big issues, mpg?, what's it like to drive etc
Steering wheel is bus like, gear shift takes urangutan arms. Power delivery is binary and they get though front tyres like sweets. Mpg is fairly horrific compared to more modern cars, I average 20, but have seen 40 on the motorway. It's definately not a short journey car.
2004 onwards vehicles are better, alot of the niggles were sorted out on these and they got the nice deep front air dam which makes them look quite aggressive. The earlier cars felt more special than the latter, the leather was better quality and always kept that lovely leather smell whereas the latter cars are more akin to a cheap Vauxhall (surprisingly). All are bargains IMO if you can live with the fuel consumption.
Oh, and both of mine have used quite a bit oil. Seems to be quite a hungry engine.
egor110 said:
You see loads of cheap cars on ebay with abs lights on, engine management light on.
Is this a big problem or more likely a maf sensor or brake sensor that needs cleaning/replacing?
I would be wary of buying a car with any sort of warning lights on personally, if it was something so simple my assumption would be it would have been done. Is this a big problem or more likely a maf sensor or brake sensor that needs cleaning/replacing?
Not sure the exact rules now with warnings and MOT, but pretty sure ABS light on is an instant fail.
That being said I got myself a OBD2 reader and have used that on about 10 cars now (mine, mates and family) and been super useful
Edited by Captain Answer on Wednesday 12th November 09:48
Captain Answer said:
egor110 said:
You see loads of cheap cars on ebay with abs lights on, engine management light on.
Is this a big problem or more likely a maf sensor or brake sensor that needs cleaning/replacing?
I would be wary of buying a car with any sort of warning lights on personally, if it was something so simple my assumption would be it would have been done. Is this a big problem or more likely a maf sensor or brake sensor that needs cleaning/replacing?
Not sure the exact rules now with warnings and MOT, but pretty sure ABS light on is an instant fail.
That being said I got myself a OBD2 reader and have used that on about 10 cars now (mine, mates and family) and been super useful
Edited by Captain Answer on Wednesday 12th November 09:48
Captain Answer said:
egor110 said:
You see loads of cheap cars on ebay with abs lights on, engine management light on.
Is this a big problem or more likely a maf sensor or brake sensor that needs cleaning/replacing?
I would be wary of buying a car with any sort of warning lights on personally, if it was something so simple my assumption would be it would have been done. Is this a big problem or more likely a maf sensor or brake sensor that needs cleaning/replacing?
Not sure the exact rules now with warnings and MOT, but pretty sure ABS light on is an instant fail.
That being said I got myself a OBD2 reader and have used that on about 10 cars now (mine, mates and family) and been super useful
Edited by Captain Answer on Wednesday 12th November 09:48
Especially when some of the reasons given could have been seen to by the seller pre sale. If the airbag light is on as the wiring under the seat needs a wiggle, why not do it FFS !
ABS faults always seem to be put down to a dirty sensor, rather than a potentially knackered ABS unit or where the reluctor ring was rusted off the driveshaft. Don't even get me started on the EML - i'm sure it's only on as the EGR needs a clean or it's a dirty sensor (chinny reckon)
egor110 said:
I think the same as you , but i wonder if i'm overlooking decent cars due to something small like just a wheel sensor needs replacing.
Potentially you are, if you do your research you could then take the cost of the motor plus the cost of the worst case scenario to fix and go from thereAny shed you buy has the potential to throw a large bill, warning lights on when you buy it or not
Captain Answer said:
egor110 said:
I think the same as you , but i wonder if i'm overlooking decent cars due to something small like just a wheel sensor needs replacing.
Potentially you are, if you do your research you could then take the cost of the motor plus the cost of the worst case scenario to fix and go from thereAny shed you buy has the potential to throw a large bill, warning lights on when you buy it or not
Only one of the c5's was a bit of a mare and that was more because it had 10 months mot but needed things like clutch/dmf sorting so i sold it on, all the others were sold beause i got bored.
The grand cherokee engines quite noisy yet holds good oil pressure and doesn't use oil so that's staying for the winter then going as it is seriously crap on petrol.
It's a 2nd car i use it to get into the nearest town for the gym/running club 3 or 4 times a week a 8 mile round trip, this costs £20-£25 a week in petrol.
egor110 said:
Yeah i'm aware of that my sheds to date have been 2 citroen c5's , saab 9-5 and the current grand cherokee.
Only one of the c5's was a bit of a mare and that was more because it had 10 months mot but needed things like clutch/dmf sorting so i sold it on, all the others were sold beause i got bored.
The grand cherokee engines quite noisy yet holds good oil pressure and doesn't use oil so that's staying for the winter then going as it is seriously crap on petrol.
It's a 2nd car i use it to get into the nearest town for the gym/running club 3 or 4 times a week a 8 mile round trip, this costs £20-£25 a week in petrol.
I keep finding myself looking at Cherokee's, saw a lovely one recently that was an MOT failiure but immaculate inside and had a high quality LPG kit on it.Only one of the c5's was a bit of a mare and that was more because it had 10 months mot but needed things like clutch/dmf sorting so i sold it on, all the others were sold beause i got bored.
The grand cherokee engines quite noisy yet holds good oil pressure and doesn't use oil so that's staying for the winter then going as it is seriously crap on petrol.
It's a 2nd car i use it to get into the nearest town for the gym/running club 3 or 4 times a week a 8 mile round trip, this costs £20-£25 a week in petrol.
My 9-3 Aero I really love but spanking through minimum of £140-160 a month in fuel at the moment, touch wood had nothing serious wrong with it in 6 months but have shelled out on a full set of tyres. MOT tomorrow though
Captain Answer said:
egor110 said:
Yeah i'm aware of that my sheds to date have been 2 citroen c5's , saab 9-5 and the current grand cherokee.
Only one of the c5's was a bit of a mare and that was more because it had 10 months mot but needed things like clutch/dmf sorting so i sold it on, all the others were sold beause i got bored.
The grand cherokee engines quite noisy yet holds good oil pressure and doesn't use oil so that's staying for the winter then going as it is seriously crap on petrol.
It's a 2nd car i use it to get into the nearest town for the gym/running club 3 or 4 times a week a 8 mile round trip, this costs £20-£25 a week in petrol.
I keep finding myself looking at Cherokee's, saw a lovely one recently that was an MOT failiure but immaculate inside and had a high quality LPG kit on it.Only one of the c5's was a bit of a mare and that was more because it had 10 months mot but needed things like clutch/dmf sorting so i sold it on, all the others were sold beause i got bored.
The grand cherokee engines quite noisy yet holds good oil pressure and doesn't use oil so that's staying for the winter then going as it is seriously crap on petrol.
It's a 2nd car i use it to get into the nearest town for the gym/running club 3 or 4 times a week a 8 mile round trip, this costs £20-£25 a week in petrol.
My 9-3 Aero I really love but spanking through minimum of £140-160 a month in fuel at the moment, touch wood had nothing serious wrong with it in 6 months but have shelled out on a full set of tyres. MOT tomorrow though
On my short journeys I'm averaging 16mpg on a motorway run about 24mpg.
Hallsy01]igTom85 said:
Astonishing!
Indeed!
Why so cheap? It would break for far more than that!!
Suspected failed turbo. Turned out to be split boost pipe, replaced and it now pulls like a train (sort of, it's quick enough!)Indeed!
Why so cheap? It would break for far more than that!!
Guy just wanted rid so took it off his hands. Speed is the key, it was posted on a forum Friday at 11am deal done by 1pm same day then collected Saturday.
Edited by Jon999 on Wednesday 12th November 12:53
Edited by Jon999 on Wednesday 12th November 12:54
Hallsy01 said:
Why so cheap? It would break for far more than that!!
This really grates on me - it WOULD break for more than that ifyou had storage for a slowly dismantling car that wasn't going to hassle anyone
you had the relevant environmental permits to de-pollute a car legally
you had a means of getting rid of whatever's left
you can put up with selling 2 things now and the rest in about 6 months time
etc etc etc
Why do people think it's so easy to break a car for parts at home? Why do so many people actually try to do so ignoring all of the above?
BigTom85 said:
I tried to part out a car at home. The nice bits went instantly, then it was 6 months of selling worthless items and it was bloody hard work. It sat on stands on the drive and was a pain in the arse to find someone to take it away when done.
Not recommended!
:this:Not recommended!
I sold my MX5 track car recently, for the price of the parts on it that were worth anything, so effectively the buyer got the basic MX5 underneath for free!
I could have parted it out and got more, but it is so much hassle. I value my time much more than that.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Grand Cherokke and Cherokees (ZJ and XJ models with the 4.0) are bloody fantastic cars. Just expect horrendous fuel economy and noisy (but working) diffs.
The engine is unburstable and they are seriously competent either off road or in the snow.
I ran one for 8 months over the 2011 winter, it was brilliant but at one point I was putting €1500 per month of fuel in it just to commute, which became an expensive joke!
mine sounds quite poorly (sounds like worn pistons) however i paid next to nothing for it and it's done lake distrit down to somerset , somerset to kent and back so can't be anything too major, i'd honestly be shocked if it let me down and the engine went pop.The engine is unburstable and they are seriously competent either off road or in the snow.
I ran one for 8 months over the 2011 winter, it was brilliant but at one point I was putting €1500 per month of fuel in it just to commute, which became an expensive joke!
Toaster Pilot said:
Hallsy01 said:
Why so cheap? It would break for far more than that!!
This really grates on me - it WOULD break for more than that ifyou had storage for a slowly dismantling car that wasn't going to hassle anyone
you had the relevant environmental permits to de-pollute a car legally
you had a means of getting rid of whatever's left
you can put up with selling 2 things now and the rest in about 6 months time
etc etc etc
Why do people think it's so easy to break a car for parts at home? Why do so many people actually try to do so ignoring all of the above?
For better or worse, I bought the 250k Avensis 
It doesn't even drive like a 100k car let alone a 250k one. The only point to note is that occasionally there is a small rattle from the rear when going over bumps, might even be the parcel shelf thinking about it. The interior is not quite immaculate (the dash has a small crack in it on the nearside) but no wear to the seat or steering wheel and the rear seats don't even look sat in. The seller was a pleasure to deal with, his brother put the majority of the miles on until he replaced it with a new Avensis (been in their family from nearly-new). As soon as we pulled up and I saw that it had four good Michelins I figured that I was onto a winner 
MOT'd until next June, still got 24k left on the cambelt too. Even the AC works!
One thing, he reckoned that it hadn't had a clutch change from new. The miles have been pretty much exclusively motorway but that can't be right, surely?
It doesn't even drive like a 100k car let alone a 250k one. The only point to note is that occasionally there is a small rattle from the rear when going over bumps, might even be the parcel shelf thinking about it. The interior is not quite immaculate (the dash has a small crack in it on the nearside) but no wear to the seat or steering wheel and the rear seats don't even look sat in. The seller was a pleasure to deal with, his brother put the majority of the miles on until he replaced it with a new Avensis (been in their family from nearly-new). As soon as we pulled up and I saw that it had four good Michelins I figured that I was onto a winner MOT'd until next June, still got 24k left on the cambelt too. Even the AC works!One thing, he reckoned that it hadn't had a clutch change from new. The miles have been pretty much exclusively motorway but that can't be right, surely?
Edited by vit4 on Wednesday 12th November 17:21
vit4 said:
One thing, he reckoned that it hadn't had a clutch change from new. The miles have been pretty much exclusively motorway but that can't be right, surely?
Was there not a guy on here a while back who had an E36 318is on over 300k that was still on the original clutch? If it has been driven gently and with mechanical sympathy then I see no reason why not. Good buy, enjoy it!
As these two have said, clutch mileage can vary massively!
A lifetime of long motorway trips and a caring driver could see it last the vehicles lifetime! (these cars usually live longer than most though)
While a learner vehicle or one owned by a cabbie in a busy, hilly area could see less than 100k!
And a cheap eurocarparts clutch in a 600+hp drift car could last less than 5 miles
A lifetime of long motorway trips and a caring driver could see it last the vehicles lifetime! (these cars usually live longer than most though)
While a learner vehicle or one owned by a cabbie in a busy, hilly area could see less than 100k!
And a cheap eurocarparts clutch in a 600+hp drift car could last less than 5 miles
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