RE: Alpina B12 6.0: Spotted

RE: Alpina B12 6.0: Spotted

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Amirhussain

11,489 posts

164 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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Raize said:
Would rather the 8-series version tbh.
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bryn_p

465 posts

230 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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It will sell, although maybe not at quite that price as I sold a similar LHD car but with half the mileage for a fair bit less than that a few weeks ago.

I also own a RHD B12 6.0 and have been offered £25k for that. Although to be honest my daily driver 728i Sport is probably 80% of the car for well under a tenth of the price. Great model the E38.

But the typical E38 buyer is not relevant when it comes to these cars, collectors want them and will pay for the right car.

The 8 series B12 is a 5.0 or 5.7 by the way, sadly the 6.0 lump only came along after the demise of the E31.

Cheers,
Bryn.

4rephill

5,041 posts

179 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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CampDavid said:
big_boz said:
Why would "they" have used a 735 with 750 running gear in the transporter, is that not just a 750 with a 735 badge on it?
Yes. They used 735is with 750i badges......
The 7 series used in the The Transporter was a 750i fitted with a manual gearbox from an 850 CSi (built by BMW purely out of curiosity), and does not carry any badges - It is merely referred to as a being a 735i.

By the same token, it's not "just a 750i[/i]"


CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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turboslippers said:
Cool, taking an E38 round the 'ring! I imagine as you chuck it about at actually reveals a hidden talent belies it's size.
Yeah, pretty much.

Our laps were wet, however, the cars impressed. It feels just like a dirty great 3 series, until the back let go through Kallenhard and the DSC had to step in.

crosseyedlion

2,180 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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CampDavid said:
turboslippers said:
Cool, taking an E38 round the 'ring! I imagine as you chuck it about at actually reveals a hidden talent belies it's size.
Yeah, pretty much.

Our laps were wet, however, the cars impressed. It feels just like a dirty great 3 series, until the back let go through Kallenhard and the DSC had to step in.
After 4 hours with a track to myself (blyton park) and no other traffic for my dissertation in the old 750iL. I can confirm the following:

In 'normal' suspension mode its comfy but doesn't like being pushed too hard.

In 'sport' suspension mode its stunning, controllable and delicate on the limit. Can also corner approx 10% faster (cant remember the exact figure) - better all round than my old 328i sport.

This thread is really really making me consider another

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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crosseyedlion said:
CampDavid said:
turboslippers said:
Cool, taking an E38 round the 'ring! I imagine as you chuck it about at actually reveals a hidden talent belies it's size.
Yeah, pretty much.

Our laps were wet, however, the cars impressed. It feels just like a dirty great 3 series, until the back let go through Kallenhard and the DSC had to step in.
After 4 hours with a track to myself (blyton park) and no other traffic for my dissertation in the old 750iL. I can confirm the following:

In 'normal' suspension mode its comfy but doesn't like being pushed too hard.

In 'sport' suspension mode its stunning, controllable and delicate on the limit. Can also corner approx 10% faster (cant remember the exact figure) - better all round than my old 328i sport.

This thread is really really making me consider another
The driver of the 750iL found it understeered a bit at 140mph in comfort mode, so Sport is the way to go.

Sport mode in the iL also appears to be stiffer than the Alpine suspension fitted to my 740i Sport, which surprised (both cars on 18" Parallels)

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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crosseyedlion said:
MPG is overrated unless you live on the motorways.
I'd agree if we were talking about the difference between a 30 and 40 mpg car, but 15...

That's well into 'Cant actually afford to run it' territory biggrin

10k a year would be £4000 and that's assuming petrol doesn't go up...

mrclav

1,320 posts

224 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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monthefish said:
mrclav said:
monthefish said:
The problem with that is that the rear of any LWB car should be a very special place to be. That looks like a boggo e-class, and the aftermarket DVD screens do it no favours.
Those rear screens aren't aftermarket...
rofl
My mistake, these would have been the OEM Rear entertainment screens for that particular W220...



To be fair, they're not much different from the ones in that S65. Or better integrated into the seats.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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bryn_p said:
It will sell, although maybe not at quite that price as I sold a similar LHD car but with half the mileage for a fair bit less than that a few weeks ago.

I also own a RHD B12 6.0 and have been offered £25k for that. Although to be honest my daily driver 728i Sport is probably 80% of the car for well under a tenth of the price. Great model the E38.

But the typical E38 buyer is not relevant when it comes to these cars, collectors want them and will pay for the right car.

The 8 series B12 is a 5.0 or 5.7 by the way, sadly the 6.0 lump only came along after the demise of the E31.

Cheers,
Bryn.
As a two time 728i owner and current E61 550i owner I salute you, you absolute legend smile

crosseyedlion

2,180 posts

199 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Devil2575 said:
10k a year would be £4000 and that's assuming petrol doesn't go up...
3k, assuming 135p per litre and 20mpg (a very easily attainable average, some tanks I was averaging mid to high 20's)

3k a year for a car with no depreciation and such a superb driving experience, think of it that way.

FilH

634 posts

145 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Lovely car, bit pricey for myself tho.

Similar colour as my daily £1200 97 750i , cracking car for the money

As to be expected mpg is the down fall, but I don't do high miles.ey

Avg 12mpg, but that's mostly town driving and sitting in traffic!

Edited by FilH on Wednesday 5th June 01:54

Bladedancer

1,294 posts

197 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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ureile said:
Bladedancer said:
Real autobahn stormer. Always liked these. Looks much better in flesh than it does on the pictures.

But 30k? Nah. You can find them around 10-15k.
Great! Where?
Here, on Pistonheads. They pop up every now and again. And usually stick around for a long, long time, ie there was a green one a year or two ago for 15k and the ad was there for good 6 months if not more.
Remember this wasn't exactly a mass produced car so you won't find new adverts each week.

Baryonyx

18,006 posts

160 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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I love that interior. The seat stitching looks a little bit tacky, but the appeal cream leather and some brightly finished burl trim against the black dash is undeniable.

pSyCoSiS

3,606 posts

206 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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I've had most irerations of the E38 7 Series, and my most recent was a 1996 750iL V12.

Stunning machine, and totally agree with the 'Jekyll and Hyde' personality. The EDC dampers do make a difference, and the torque is sublime. They are also more 'bespoke' than the run of the mill 728, 735s, etc. Leather stitched dashboard and double glazed windows are a nice tough.

Funny that some people are mentioning the 330d...

On the drive back after picking up my 750iL, there was a chap in a brand new 330d M Sport Touring. He was giving it some beans, and we finally caught up at a set of traffic lights, with a good few mile strech.

We both floored it when the lights turned green, and he had the edge only for a few seconds. As soon as the 7 got it's thrust, it shot off, and calmy passed and distanced away afrom the 330d.

The look on the guy's face was utterly priceless!

And I didn't think it was that bad on fuel, for what it was.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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crosseyedlion said:
Devil2575 said:
10k a year would be £4000 and that's assuming petrol doesn't go up...
3k, assuming 135p per litre and 20mpg (a very easily attainable average, some tanks I was averaging mid to high 20's)

3k a year for a car with no depreciation and such a superb driving experience, think of it that way.
I was simply using Alpina's quoted combined figure. Whether 20 is easily attainable or not is going to depend on how and where you drive.

No depreciation is debatable, maybe if you don't put any miles on it. Even a rare car like that is going to lose value as the miles build up and it's already on 97k.

It's a beast of a car but to be honest I can't see why I would choose that over a B10 V8s which could be had for a lot less or even a 740i. You could buy a minter of a 740 and then buy a supercharger which would give you over 400 bhp and still have change from £10k.


tomoleeds

770 posts

187 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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looks like a horrible pensioners 7 series, no one under 30 likes wood interiors; 30k is not going happen.


theironduke

6,995 posts

189 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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TurboBlue said:
crosseyedlion said:
I had a 750iL. Loved every drive.

If you think a 330d is even close to the driving experience you're way wide of the mark.

Along with the rest of the drive - The sound, immediacy and torque spread of the engine is stunning.

Most versatile jekyl & hyde car i've driven (thanks to switchable suspension, gearbox and stonking midrange)

VED is £225 (or whatever the generic one is now) for all the e38's - due to their age.

MPG is overrated unless you live on the motorways.

Petrol is £1.32/litre last time I filled up.

Also, any e38 750iL isn't going to fall in value now, a 330d will carry on falling.

Dammit, I can feel myself getting another e38 750 :/
Lovely post, this regrettably is exactly the same way my brain works when it comes to my old cars, I'm talking myself back into them.
Snap. Same sort of thought process which led me to buying a Mercedes 500 SEC recently. DERV has it's place in my work van, fk driving an oil burner for fun.

bryn_p

465 posts

230 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Devil2575 said:
I was simply using Alpina's quoted combined figure. Whether 20 is easily attainable or not is going to depend on how and where you drive.

No depreciation is debatable, maybe if you don't put any miles on it. Even a rare car like that is going to lose value as the miles build up and it's already on 97k.

It's a beast of a car but to be honest I can't see why I would choose that over a B10 V8s which could be had for a lot less or even a 740i. You could buy a minter of a 740 and then buy a supercharger which would give you over 400 bhp and still have change from £10k.

20mpg is not attainable with the 6.0 engine sadly. You can get close, but not quite there.

And comparing them to other cars is pointless. Either you want one of these specifically and will pay accordingly, or you don't in which case you will buy something else.

Cheers,
Bryn.

killingjoker

950 posts

194 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Mr Whippy said:
CampDavid said:
g3org3y said:
I've been in this exact one before, owned by one of the chaps on another fortum I frequent. Only (RHD) B12 in Estoril blue iirc.









Not too shabby. cool
Can't imagine there are many E38s in Estoril knocking about, never seen one before
You can understand why too. It's not really doing it any favours in that colour frown

Dave
I disagree, it looks fantastic in Estoril.

As for the one featured, i can think so many interesting cars i could get for £30k plus a decent old 750i as well.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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tomoleeds said:
looks like a horrible pensioners 7 series, no one under 30 likes wood interiors; 30k is not going happen.
Bought my 7er at 29 and quite like the tree. I don't live in Bradford though