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Unforunately, I had reason to visit my Mother in law yesterday.
Upon leaving, she asked if I liked her new car. I looked round confused, as I could only see her Silver RAV4 with the s
tty vanity plate on it.
Obviously, she proceeded to tell me that her last RAV4 was knackered as it was old with too many miles, and would become unreliable, so the lovely guys at Toyoya had done her an amazing deal on a new car, identical to her old one.
The age and mileage of the car that was old and unreliable? 34 months old with 26.5k miles. I was speechless.
To be fair to the salesman, what a deal! It isn't even the new model, so they've flogged one of the run out models from stock, and looking at the figures, have well and truly, ahem, "protected margin".
One born every minute/fools and money etc etc!!!!!!
Upon leaving, she asked if I liked her new car. I looked round confused, as I could only see her Silver RAV4 with the s
tty vanity plate on it.Obviously, she proceeded to tell me that her last RAV4 was knackered as it was old with too many miles, and would become unreliable, so the lovely guys at Toyoya had done her an amazing deal on a new car, identical to her old one.
The age and mileage of the car that was old and unreliable? 34 months old with 26.5k miles. I was speechless.
To be fair to the salesman, what a deal! It isn't even the new model, so they've flogged one of the run out models from stock, and looking at the figures, have well and truly, ahem, "protected margin".
One born every minute/fools and money etc etc!!!!!!
f1nn said:
Unforunately, I had reason to visit my Mother in law yesterday.
Upon leaving, she asked if I liked her new car. I looked round confused, as I could only see her Silver RAV4 with the stty vanity plate on it.
Obviously, she proceeded to tell me that her last RAV4 was knackered as it was old with too many miles, and would become unreliable, so the lovely guys at Toyoya had done her an amazing deal on a new car, identical to her old one.
The age and mileage of the car that was old and unreliable? 34 months old with 26.5k miles. I was speechless.
To be fair to the salesman, what a deal! It isn't even the new model, so they've flogged one of the run out models from stock, and looking at the figures, have well and truly, ahem, "protected margin".
One born every minute/fools and money etc etc!!!!!!
My mother is similar - a dealer's wet dream.Upon leaving, she asked if I liked her new car. I looked round confused, as I could only see her Silver RAV4 with the s
tty vanity plate on it.Obviously, she proceeded to tell me that her last RAV4 was knackered as it was old with too many miles, and would become unreliable, so the lovely guys at Toyoya had done her an amazing deal on a new car, identical to her old one.
The age and mileage of the car that was old and unreliable? 34 months old with 26.5k miles. I was speechless.
To be fair to the salesman, what a deal! It isn't even the new model, so they've flogged one of the run out models from stock, and looking at the figures, have well and truly, ahem, "protected margin".
One born every minute/fools and money etc etc!!!!!!
Last car she purchased was a Focus 1.6 TDCI Titanium. 57 plate bought a couple of years ago. Bought the first one she saw for £9.5k on finance. Got offered peanuts (about £1300 i think) for her immaculate 2003 Pug 307 1.6 petrol with fresh MOT, full hist and 50k miles. Took finance and didn't negotiate at all. I went ballistic about it.
Fast forward to last week when she decides the Focus is boring. Given the Focus to her partner as the trade-in value was eye watering. Now has 12 plate Suzuki Swift. I asked whether she negotiated and she told me it was a lovely colour and had nice alloys.
Given up.
Our local Toyota dealer never has any problems selling off the last old model after the replacement range has already arrived. They just save it until my MIL drops her car off for a service and give her the sharp intake of breath and shake of the head treatment. Bingo! Obsolete stock cleared at the full list price.
f1nn said:
Madness.
if people want to change cars just because they want a different car, I get that, but to change to an identical car that has less than her already low mileage car for the sole reason than it will be unreliable, and pay 14k plus an immaculate trade in? Bonkers.
The chap two doors down the road from me has had, every two years, a brand new Focus in the same colour....... He is rather wealthy but still.if people want to change cars just because they want a different car, I get that, but to change to an identical car that has less than her already low mileage car for the sole reason than it will be unreliable, and pay 14k plus an immaculate trade in? Bonkers.
And there are many, many people out there like this OP. And also those who can't bear to have such an "old" car as a three year old machine, I mean, what will the neighbours say!??!
This is the way for old folk with plenty disposable income. They say they don't, but they must have.
My uncle has had 4 brand new CRV's one after the other. They hit the first MOT, which in his head means it could be dangerous and unreliable.....why else would the dealer suddenly MOT it?
At that point its time to sell. The last one had less than 10k on it.
Each time he pays full price and each time they give him rock bottom trade-in for a car they sold 3 years before. Despite all of this he still cant even negotiate free mats.
Old folk and Honda are a great opportunity for car salesmen.
My uncle has had 4 brand new CRV's one after the other. They hit the first MOT, which in his head means it could be dangerous and unreliable.....why else would the dealer suddenly MOT it?
At that point its time to sell. The last one had less than 10k on it. Each time he pays full price and each time they give him rock bottom trade-in for a car they sold 3 years before. Despite all of this he still cant even negotiate free mats.
Old folk and Honda are a great opportunity for car salesmen.
I used to work at a bodyshop. Guarenteed every 6-8 weeks the same old boy would come in with a new car wanting a bit of work done. Usually a bumper scuff, a half side respray or a couple of panels here or there. He'd then sort out any mechanical issues it had, then trade it in for another car. I have no idea why he did it and would hate to think how much money he was loosing every few months trading cars in for other cars, all at the same garage too. I can only assume he was bored, rich and enjoyed doing it. Was fking weird
king weird Thankfully my mum actually listened to me for once, when she was about to trade her low mile, albeit ten year old, Golf for a Prius on the grounds that they're congestion charge exempt. She drives into London once a week.
I did get her to take it to her trusted Indy for a once over and double checked common faults online. Four years later it still hasn't died the death she was concerned about.
If only I could get to listen to sense about her diabetes
I did get her to take it to her trusted Indy for a once over and double checked common faults online. Four years later it still hasn't died the death she was concerned about.
If only I could get to listen to sense about her diabetes
My old Dad’s car buying priorities are: good fuel consumption, it must be Mercedes, good fuel consumption, it must be automatic, and most importantly of all good fuel consumption.
So he always buys a diesel for the 6k a year he drives and then delights in telling us how the new car is achieving at least 2 mpg more than the old one forgetting the fact it costs him at least £15 grand to change every two to three years. In fact whenever I ask him how his getting on with his car the first thing he mentions is the amazing fuel economy and the £30 a year road tax.
And, he always gets talked into buying Supaguard, GAP insurance, tyre insurance, stop chip insurance, bird st insurance and whatever else the salesman can earn commission on.
So he always buys a diesel for the 6k a year he drives and then delights in telling us how the new car is achieving at least 2 mpg more than the old one forgetting the fact it costs him at least £15 grand to change every two to three years. In fact whenever I ask him how his getting on with his car the first thing he mentions is the amazing fuel economy and the £30 a year road tax.
And, he always gets talked into buying Supaguard, GAP insurance, tyre insurance, stop chip insurance, bird s
t insurance and whatever else the salesman can earn commission on.My FIL is one of these. In the time I've known him (circa 12 years he has had 11 cars. Does he do massive miles? Nope, about 5k a year. Does he chop and change due to a love of cars and a desire to have a selection of interesting things before he stops driving? Nope, each and every one has been some low spec diesel dullness.
What irks me (notwithstanding the huge waste of money) is that he as with someone else mentioned above is always claiming to be skint and the justification for the purchase of these vehicles is always that the new one does 0.257mpg more and/or that the old one was needing some expensive work doing like new tyres or brake pads. The best ever was the qashwai he bought ass he "needed" a 4x4 (he lives up a small hill that got a bit icy one day). Thing is when I had a look underneath it there was a distinct absence of a propshaft going to the rear. He is a dealer's wet dream.
My analysis is that he's much more interested in the plate than the car itself in terms of bragging fits at the bowls club as keeping up with the jones' is very very important to him.
What irks me (notwithstanding the huge waste of money) is that he as with someone else mentioned above is always claiming to be skint and the justification for the purchase of these vehicles is always that the new one does 0.257mpg more and/or that the old one was needing some expensive work doing like new tyres or brake pads. The best ever was the qashwai he bought ass he "needed" a 4x4 (he lives up a small hill that got a bit icy one day). Thing is when I had a look underneath it there was a distinct absence of a propshaft going to the rear. He is a dealer's wet dream.
My analysis is that he's much more interested in the plate than the car itself in terms of bragging fits at the bowls club as keeping up with the jones' is very very important to him.
A few years ago when buying a used car from a dealer the salesman brought in another salesman to try and sell me tyre insurance. He couldn't understand why I didn't want this as it would cover me for slashed tyres, blowouts, punctures and if the wheels got nicked.
I told him it would be cheaper to replace a tyre if I had a puncture/blow out and up to that point had one repairable puncture in 10years of driving. As for getting tyres slashed/wheels nicked I'd try and claim on my car insurance not some extra insurance.
The original salesman who sold me the car was killing himself laughing telling me I was the only person the other guy (obviously their tyre insurance expert) had failed to sell this cover to. Seems like a lot of gullible buyers out there if this was true.
I told him it would be cheaper to replace a tyre if I had a puncture/blow out and up to that point had one repairable puncture in 10years of driving. As for getting tyres slashed/wheels nicked I'd try and claim on my car insurance not some extra insurance.
The original salesman who sold me the car was killing himself laughing telling me I was the only person the other guy (obviously their tyre insurance expert) had failed to sell this cover to. Seems like a lot of gullible buyers out there if this was true.
My parents are equally as daft.
Wanted a Shogun just to tow a horse box. Must be diesel. Ended up with a petrol 3.0 V6. They thought it was diesel. Thought it had air conditioning too. It didn't.
Full service history on the thing every year and always spent plenty of money on tyres and all the other bits a bobs. This year it had a leak from the clutch slave cylinder, need new brake pipes and maybe a new clutch. Mum sold it to somebody for £500. The repairs would have cost peanuts. I could have done them too.
Bought a horsebox converted Renault Master van. Recent MOT but had missing pedal rubbers, inoperative windscreen washers and no brake lights. I can guarantee she never looked on Autotrader to see what the going rate was for such vehicles.
Wanted a Shogun just to tow a horse box. Must be diesel. Ended up with a petrol 3.0 V6. They thought it was diesel. Thought it had air conditioning too. It didn't.
Full service history on the thing every year and always spent plenty of money on tyres and all the other bits a bobs. This year it had a leak from the clutch slave cylinder, need new brake pipes and maybe a new clutch. Mum sold it to somebody for £500. The repairs would have cost peanuts. I could have done them too.
Bought a horsebox converted Renault Master van. Recent MOT but had missing pedal rubbers, inoperative windscreen washers and no brake lights. I can guarantee she never looked on Autotrader to see what the going rate was for such vehicles.
Jasandjules said:
The chap two doors down the road from me has had, every two years, a brand new Focus in the same colour
Old boy over the road from me does this. Every 2 years gets a new red Nissan Micra. He goes to the paper shop in it every morning and out for about 30 minutes every afternoon with his missus & that's pretty much it - it gets parked up back in the garage.Why not even a different colour?
If you're reading this, come on Stan, live on the edge - get a blue one this year.
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