RE: Harris buys a rally car

RE: Harris buys a rally car

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e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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dog man said:
Love barn finds! Where are pics of it as was? Or did it already have cage in?
This was the day after I collected it from the place it had sat for the past 10 years. Some sad personal circumstances led to it falling into my lap. Had things been different I would have simply kept it, but those who know me understand the e21 is more my thing. (In fact, Rally Prep are also helping me build a Group 2 replica e21 to compete in next year) When they told me of their plans I was happy enough to let it go and will be watching this story unfold.


rohrl

8,712 posts

144 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Beautiful. Well it will be.

It has to look exactly like patrick Snijers's M3 in my opinion Chris. Here's a photo gallery courtesy of your old lot at Evo.
http://www.evo.co.uk/features/features/256060/patr...

We'll be needing an in-car video from the Isle of Man when you attempt to recreate Snijers's stage times too.

Mark Smith

164 posts

218 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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That looks an awesome car to build into something really good. I can recommend a good engine mapper for the tuning and setting up. Steve Greenald at Race Engine Calibration at Rainham. He maps all aftermarket ecu's.He's got a Schenk engine dyno and a TAT Dyno rolling road. He's also worth speaking to about finding a good engine man. He knows them all.

g3org3y

20,606 posts

190 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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g3org3y likes this thumbup

First thing that popped into my mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkQBD3eYADA

Best of luck with this project, will be following with interest. smile

flamingjo

8 posts

164 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Looks like a fab build! Turner Motorsport do a 2.5 crank kit which with a bored out 2.3 engine block produces more power. I'm considering this on my car as its slipped a couple of crank shells and I'm struggling to find an engine or crank and conrods to repair mine!

sisu

2,576 posts

172 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Wel white paint is the lightest and easiest to work with for reapirs. This could make a nice graphic with Gold BBS 3 piece alloys.

BlackPenquinn

2 posts

130 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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I completely agree with your reasoning Chris. I was running a V12 Vantage, An R8 V10 and a Range Rover Sport. As great as the cars were, I sold the R8 V10 and bought a Cayman R to take to the track.

That little Cayman R is one of my best car purchases ever! I have been building it up with a properly sorted JRZ coil over suspension, with monoballs and GT3 LCA's, GT2 seats, 6 point harnesses, Hiego half cage etc. Every time I take that car out, I have the drive of my life. Its a car I can actually use the power (on the track). The track is real, its an experience, its an education, its challenging, its about improving yourself and the car. Plus the community is actively doing things, not debating theoretical numbers.

To be honest, I'm thinking of selling the Aston V12 Vantage. As good as that car is, as amazing an experience as it is, its just not worth the overhead, and its not as fun as the Cayman R track car. Thats saying a lot, becauseI LOVE the Aston.

But the truth is:

Owning a 510 hp V12 Aston for road driving is a bit like dating the beautiful supermodel girlfriend that won't ever go to bed with you. She just costs you lots and teases you to the point of doing something stupid. The Cayman R track car, is the still very good looking girl next door, who is so much fun, game for anything and wont make you feel guilty in the process.

Edited by BlackPenquinn on Monday 10th June 17:08


Edited by BlackPenquinn on Monday 10th June 17:09

E30Addict

825 posts

171 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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sisu said:
Wel white paint is the lightest and easiest to work with for reapirs. This could make a nice graphic with Gold BBS 3 piece alloys.
nono E30 DTM liveries are everywhere and this isn't the right context. If CH is going for a replica, then the red/white livery is epic. But I like the idea of creating a new livery with an old school theme (Jaegermeister etc).

161BMW

1,697 posts

164 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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sisu said:
Wel white paint is the lightest and easiest to work with for reapirs. This could make a nice graphic with Gold BBS 3 piece alloys.
This is my favourite paint scheme :-)

nav p

324 posts

186 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Chris,have a word with Barney at Classic Heroes...

firebird350

322 posts

179 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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First off - Congratulations, Chris, for saving a zero (unloved, languishing close to death icon) with a view to turning it back into a hero with a future. Great cars should never go to the grave (I should know - I've let enough end up in the oxidation cemetery in my life...).

Also, if you can drive it the way Marc Duez did in the 1989 WRC, taking it to the limit in an effort to match the 4WD Lancia Delta integrales on the loose, then all your work and expense will have been worthwhile! Check out 'underdog' Marc's skill on the '89 Portuguese Rally below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh5-8PD9Hbo

By the way, how about that FINA livery for your M3?

pagani1

683 posts

201 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Harris you bugger! You've gone and done it again and found an absolute gem and I've just gone ithaca verde.

pagani1

683 posts

201 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Chris I too recommend Barney at Classic Legends a real BMW engine man!

s m

23,164 posts

202 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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juansolo said:
Superb, always reminds me of this

http://youtu.be/fG-Tnj3EN5U

garypotter

1,483 posts

149 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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I'm swaying both ways on this one Chris, really great that you are turning a barn find into a rally spec car and taking it racing, but also an e30 M3 being rebuilt for racing - are you crazy!! spending that sort of money for rallying ! many trees and boulders that can cause serious damage, do you feel once done that you will be able to push 100%.

I know you have done the maths and keep usupdated with the progress, also as mentioned maybe do you own paint scheme and ask for some sponsors from PHers. possibly MONKEY WORLD......

firebird350

322 posts

179 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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And for the M3 diehards - a little drama and spectacle!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOu2pxPjdfM

Clearer this time!

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

163 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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pagani1 said:
Chris I too recommend Barney at Classic Legends a real BMW engine man!
Has he changed from the ML days? Your engine will explode if we don't do all this unnecessary work on it....

205alive

6,087 posts

175 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Bit of an old school GDR livery...




...edited to add, 'ish'.

ewolg

1,678 posts

278 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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dtmpower said:
How much effort/work/parts/labour is required to make 270hp from an S14 engine ?
A reasonable amount. I had one which had a Split Second MAF unit on and modded inlet and that nade 255. Cams manifold and a good map will be needed on top so not 'that' cheap!!

e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Period livery always looks good. (this one packs nigh on 500bhp courtesy of the ex M5 V8)