RE: Radical wins battle of Brits
Discussion
ukaskew said:
The place looks near deserted for 80% of the course. As somebody who has battled for a spot (any spot!) up the hill at Goodwood, is the CPoP worth a visit in future as an amateur photographer?
Yes, absolutely. There's usually a few clusters of folks around the exciting bits (start, bridges, chicane), but they're usually thin enough to get through.Oddball RS said:
Sounds down beat i know but i think this is certain to end in tears, those speeds and straw don't work together well.
This is "PistonHeads" in case you didn't notice, please take your attitude back to Mumsnet where it belongs and hand your testicals in on the way out. :-)Epic driving, totally bonkers speeds- brilliant, so glad to see this kind of dangerous, non-PC activity is still alive and well.
Hard to see where he could have gone much faster.
scubadude said:
This is "PistonHeads" in case you didn't notice, please take your attitude back to Mumsnet where it belongs and hand your testicals in on the way out. :-)
Epic driving, totally bonkers speeds- brilliant, so glad to see this kind of dangerous, non-PC activity is still alive and well.
Indeed and not just on the track. The 42 litre Bentley Packard spitting flames in front of an appreciative crowd in the paddock is something beautiful to behold. The crowd seems intelligent enough to stay well out of harms way but I'm not sure that adults applying common sense is quite enough for a modern risk assessment. Epic driving, totally bonkers speeds- brilliant, so glad to see this kind of dangerous, non-PC activity is still alive and well.
This year was the first time i have visited CPOP after several trips down to Goodwood, i have to say that i was really impressed, like its been said before its just like a mini FOS without all the crowds. In terms of safety I have to admit i am very selective where i stand at CPOP or FOS, not on the outside of bends etc, I agree that it seems like something might go wrong sooner or later at one of them but then its not really any different to normal hill climb racing or rallying really, as a spectator you need to use your head whilst enjoying the event. I was stood by the second straight before and after the chicane when the racing truck came past, not much room for error with something that size at speed.
Strangely, as a risk-averse kind of a character, safety at the CPoP had never occurred to me before. With the exception of its inaugural year in 2008, every other has seen damp conditions so nobody's really been pressing on.
Having witnessed Goodwood's amazing hill record from Heidfeld, and now Kerr's magnificent course record at Cholmondeley, it's inevitably going to pull things into focus from that perspective. The Chevron crew were busily checking tyre pressures after every run and slapping Jordan Witt on the back for his prowess. By comparison, I had a chat with Radical's Roger Green and they were very much more laid-back about the whole thing. The problem is, when the competitive element starts to show to this extent it gets difficult.
I wouldn't worry too much about like likes of Kerr, Mansell (Scott), Webb, et al. Those of us who put ourselves trackside know the risks and it's up to the BARC to ensure their briefing and monitoring of driving standards is up to scratch. Otherwise, the CPoP is such a delightfully informal event with amazing access for press and public.
The nearest I got to an injury all Sunday was Guy Smith showering me with gravel while taking this:
Having witnessed Goodwood's amazing hill record from Heidfeld, and now Kerr's magnificent course record at Cholmondeley, it's inevitably going to pull things into focus from that perspective. The Chevron crew were busily checking tyre pressures after every run and slapping Jordan Witt on the back for his prowess. By comparison, I had a chat with Radical's Roger Green and they were very much more laid-back about the whole thing. The problem is, when the competitive element starts to show to this extent it gets difficult.
I wouldn't worry too much about like likes of Kerr, Mansell (Scott), Webb, et al. Those of us who put ourselves trackside know the risks and it's up to the BARC to ensure their briefing and monitoring of driving standards is up to scratch. Otherwise, the CPoP is such a delightfully informal event with amazing access for press and public.
The nearest I got to an injury all Sunday was Guy Smith showering me with gravel while taking this:
I took the old man for farthers day and the first time I've been to CPoP and what a day! A sensory overload for any discerning petrolhead! A few boyhood dreams were lived out with some of the machinery on offer, certainly being stood next to the pipes of an F40 being vigorously warmed through was a highlight
When stood next to the chicane watching said contenders on the charge I was feeling ready to peg it! But being that close was something else and an element of common sence is required. But I was surprised not to see the usual 'motorsport is dangerous' signs dotted about...
All in all what an event and I will be back next year!
When stood next to the chicane watching said contenders on the charge I was feeling ready to peg it! But being that close was something else and an element of common sence is required. But I was surprised not to see the usual 'motorsport is dangerous' signs dotted about...
All in all what an event and I will be back next year!
Scuffers said:
Electra said:
scuffers: just curious, why do you say that about the Ultima GTR?
easy, this is a spring cct, very narrow, and accuracy is everything.whilst an Ultima may well have the power to go faster, it's also somewhat bigger - more specifically wider and longer, ie, to make the chicane for example, it would have to turn more of a corner than the narrower Radical, as well as being heavier, it's not going to have the same ability to do direction changes as fast.
this is not the same as putting them head to head on an open race.
(all that said, I have still yet to see an Ultima actually perform on a cct worth talking about)
Ted needs to dust off the GTR 720 and go for some more records
Given the track was bumpy and the tyres weren't upto temp, this radical guy must have huge gonads.
tjlees said:
It's actually shorter than a radical sr8 http://www.radicalsportscars.com/uk/showroom/radic... and only 6cm wider (unsure on the wheelbase diff - GTR is 2560mm ). However I agree the weight difference of around 300kg would mean better change of direction. If the sr8 is running the 460bhp v8 the power to weight will be very similar.
Ted needs to dust off the GTR 720 and go for some more records
Given the track was bumpy and the tyres weren't upto temp, this radical guy must have huge gonads.
I would be intrested to see how Mad Mac's Twincharged EVO did against the Radical. Stunning bit of kit still though and cant think of anything (apart form a secon hand OMS 4.0 V8 hill climb car) that would beat it for the money. Ted needs to dust off the GTR 720 and go for some more records
Given the track was bumpy and the tyres weren't upto temp, this radical guy must have huge gonads.
here is some more info on the Macs car http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=315...
J4CKO said:
chevronb37 said:
Just in case the severity of that last bridge is lost in the film...
And here is Robbie posing with his award for FTD.
And there is me, peering, nicely framed in the rear wing, just below the intake thingy, I was leaning on the barrier, I am not 4 ft tall btw.And here is Robbie posing with his award for FTD.
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