Remember this guy? Well, he died.

Remember this guy? Well, he died.

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mike9009

7,016 posts

244 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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mrmr96 said:
mike9009 said:
Can I ask YOU one question... Do YOU think his driving on a public road is acceptable? ( 'Yes' or 'No' will suffice)
No.
Phew... smile

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Rollcage said:
It would be black flagged at all trackdays!
Changed that for you.

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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I do not wish death upon anyone but that does mean I have any sympathy for this chap.

Good driving is not just about car control.

Ug_lee

2,223 posts

212 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Someone was going to die eventually, just glad it was him.

Logie

835 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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I don't wish death on anyone most of the time, although pedos etc deserve it. But people say you can not berate the man because he was not driving, yet it goes to show his showing off driving dangerous in public WAS influencing others.

Which, unfortunately led to his death.

Ali_T

3,379 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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His final video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotat...

i won't make any pretence and being quite glad that his "Coming Soon" at the end will never be filmed. This video is just absolutely shocking. A monumental bellend that deserved what he got. I just hope no innocent people were hurt when he went.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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At NO point did I condone this muppet. Try learning to read before posting. Maybe go back to page 1 and re-read everything slowly. Or try getting an adult to read it for you.


I'm out of this playground.

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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k-ink said:
At NO point did I condone this muppet. Try learning to read before posting. Maybe go back to page 1 and re-read everything slowly. Or try getting an adult to read it for you.


I'm out of this playground.
Then I will not expect you to post again.

Everyone is allowed their say whether you agree with them or not.

This bloke's driving was utterly appalling for the context he chose to exhibit it in. There can be no disagreement about that. it is worrying that he was worshipped for it and it clearly influenced others to replicate his style.

However, he is not the first and he will not be the last.

The disagreement is whether people believed he deserved to die or not. You will never get consensus of opinion on this so both sides need to let it go.

Is the world a better place without someone is personal opinion.

Is the world a safer place without him and his ilk, absolutely.

uncinquesei

917 posts

178 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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If you re-read the whole of this thread, but swap the word "dancing" for the word "driving" it's a lot funnier....

LocoCoco

1,428 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Any Georgians in here care to comment?

Maybe it's a bit like those mad arabs spinning their cars on straight roads, innocent bystanders get wiped out but there's still hundreds of people in the crowds willing to take the risk, they must think the driving is acceptable?

Or like tribes of cannibals in the jungle, female genital mutation etc etc, these things don't stand out as much in places where they are the norm.

I agree that driving like that wouldn't be acceptable on any road I've ever driven.

crostonian

2,427 posts

173 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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His driving was absolutely appalling for the UK, but Georgia, perhaps it was less of a problem there. All the people celebrating this guys death seem to have enjoyed watching his videos in full, personally I didn't think they were too extreme given the circumstances - the weaving through traffic can be seen in many southern Italian cities, Turkey, Greece, Cairo etc and the more extreme drifting seemed to have been done when the roads were a lot quieter and the exits seemed clear. There's far more disturbing stuff on the internet, I just accept that human life doesn't have the same value everywhere.

detomaso

1,354 posts

249 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Guy drove like a madman; some applauded, some berated but you watched the videos in amazement - job jobbed

The Getaway in Stockholm series was extremely popular, these are like a more extreme version.

But for clarity:

Did he hurt anybody in the videos? No.
Did he die while driving? No.
Are people focusing on what could have been? Yes.

I'm not condoning anything and there are some balanced views on here but this happened 3000 miles away, he died in a car accident, he didn't kill your daughter/wife/grandma.

(but he could have done etc etc)

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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detomaso said:
Did he hurt anybody in the videos? No. Does it make his driving acceptable? No.
Did he die while driving? No. Did he die by being a passenger in a car being driven in a similar manner? Yes.
Are people focusing on what could have been? Yes. Which is relevant because in the end, he condoned that driving style and was a passenger in a car that hit a tree _ only pure luck meant that the car hit an inanimate object rather than another car, or a pedestrian.

I'm not condoning anything and there are some balanced views on here but this happened 3000 miles away, he died in a car accident, he didn't kill your daughter/wife/grandma. His driving is celebrated by lots of young impressionable drivers who can take to the road and eventually ....... [fill in the blanks]

Significantly, a bad accident was predicted since the first video was uploaded. Again, it was only luck that only people in the car suffered.


Ultimately, will his family and friends celebrate his passing because he'll be remembered for driving ridiculously on a public highway, or will they be saddened by the fact that the whole situation could have been avoided?

(but he could have done etc etc)

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Actually, MODS, probably time for a thread lock as this is only going to go round in circles with ever increasing aggressive responses.

detomaso

1,354 posts

249 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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zebra said:
detomaso said:
Did he hurt anybody in the videos? No. Does it make his driving acceptable? No.
Did he die while driving? No. Did he die by being a passenger in a car being driven in a similar manner? Yes.
Are people focusing on what could have been? Yes. Which is relevant because in the end, he condoned that driving style and was a passenger in a car that hit a tree _ only pure luck meant that the car hit an inanimate object rather than another car, or a pedestrian.

I'm not condoning anything and there are some balanced views on here but this happened 3000 miles away, he died in a car accident, he didn't kill your daughter/wife/grandma. His driving is celebrated by lots of young impressionable drivers who can take to the road and eventually ....... [fill in the blanks]

Significantly, a bad accident was predicted since the first video was uploaded. Again, it was only luck that only people in the car suffered.


Ultimately, will his family and friends celebrate his passing because he'll be remembered for driving ridiculously on a public highway, or will they be saddened by the fact that the whole situation could have been avoided?

(but he could have done etc etc)
I didn't condone his driving (I called him a madman) but rather I attempted to put things into some kind of context - I think my third points covers your response

dome

687 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Worst of all, that's one less e34 M5 on the road frown

s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Ibtl

Anyone else notice how bald he is / was for 25?

Anyway, I think he's about as dead as that kid that used to hook himself onto the rear screen of the express trains in Germany with a sucker pad then surf them at 200 mph. As soon as the authorities began to catch up with him, suddenly he had cancer and ' died'.

This guy's not dead IMO, but I'd not be surprised if the cops were getting close to him and he's tripping to avoid 20 years in prison.

Anyone could screw a plate on a crashed car.

OdramaSwimLaden

1,971 posts

170 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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nickfrog said:
funkyrobot said:
Any death is tragic
Normally, yes.
In this case it would, more than very likely, be a life saving event.

RIP though.

SMcP114

2,916 posts

193 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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s3fella said:
Anyone could screw a plate on a crashed car.
No doubt, although one would imagine it would be somewhat difficult to screw a set of Recaro's onto a twisted floor, non?

J4CKO

41,622 posts

201 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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s3fella said:
Ibtl

Anyone else notice how bald he is / was for 25?

Anyway, I think he's about as dead as that kid that used to hook himself onto the rear screen of the express trains in Germany with a sucker pad then surf them at 200 mph. As soon as the authorities began to catch up with him, suddenly he had cancer and ' died'.

This guy's not dead IMO, but I'd not be surprised if the cops were getting close to him and he's tripping to avoid 20 years in prison.

Anyone could screw a plate on a crashed car.
Doesnt that require a corpse of some description ?