Remember this guy? Well, he died.
Discussion
killingjoker said:
crabbit said:
Folks, you need to read the facts first.
As those facts are a little unclear, it might make more sense to respect the guy's death first and then comment on what really happened, later.
We've all done silly things in our youth. As usual the PH vigilante are on it before the truth is made clear.
Oh, so that video was not of some mindless fAs those facts are a little unclear, it might make more sense to respect the guy's death first and then comment on what really happened, later.
We've all done silly things in our youth. As usual the PH vigilante are on it before the truth is made clear.
kwit driving without any care for anybody else's safety in the middle of a busy town. I suggest the world's a safer place without him now. No sympathy whatsoever. Loved his videos, loved his driving. Would I have loved it if he ran my nan over? Of course not, but it's a tragic loss to lose not only Giorgi, but also an E34..
crabbit said:
Read the facts first!Your logic is flawed (not to mention grossly out of proportion), because you've misinterpreted the situation.
The fact he was not driving at the time is almost irrelevant, this is someone who revelled in endangering others and liked to express that to the world.
Im not one of those 'oh think of the children!' types but he is not different to my example.
If you do anything often enough, eventually it will go wrong. However, if I paint walls all day every day, the worst that will happen is I spill the paint pot. If I drive like a dick everywhere, when it goes wrong the consequences should be obvious, even to those in this thread asking whether he actually killed anyone else.
Someone posted it was inevitable someone would die from his antics, just luck it was him first. I'd agree with that.
Someone posted it was inevitable someone would die from his antics, just luck it was him first. I'd agree with that.
crosseyedlion said:
mrmr96 said:
Oh yes - the PH lynchmob/bandwagon is in full swing.
BUT whilst his driving appears wreckless, did he actually kill or injure anyone with his antics?
How many PHers speed, or get a 'dab of oppo' on from time to time?
Both parties actions are illegal and dangerous, but this guy is lynched for crossing some other threshold of acceptability? Where do you draw the line if not at the law?
When endangering and terrorising other people, who didn't choose to be party to it.BUT whilst his driving appears wreckless, did he actually kill or injure anyone with his antics?
How many PHers speed, or get a 'dab of oppo' on from time to time?
Both parties actions are illegal and dangerous, but this guy is lynched for crossing some other threshold of acceptability? Where do you draw the line if not at the law?
mrmr96 said:
Gladys gets terrified when overtaken by a TVR doing 67mph in a 60.
Its a bit different to going past at 80 in a 30 in built up areas with an armful of opposite lock through red lights whilst people are turning and walking on the pavement or crossing the road in front....then boasting about it.mrmr96 said:
Oh yes - the PH lynchmob/bandwagon is in full swing.
BUT whilst his driving appears wreckless, did he actually kill or injure anyone with his antics?
How many PHers speed, or get a 'dab of oppo' on from time to time?
Both parties actions are illegal and dangerous, but this guy is lynched for crossing some other threshold of acceptability? Where do you draw the line if not at the law?
So taking your ideology, it's acceptable for me to drive past a primary school at finishing time doing 100+ so long as I don't hit anybody the first time? Not only this but it's comparable to someone doing 75 on an empty motorway?BUT whilst his driving appears wreckless, did he actually kill or injure anyone with his antics?
How many PHers speed, or get a 'dab of oppo' on from time to time?
Both parties actions are illegal and dangerous, but this guy is lynched for crossing some other threshold of acceptability? Where do you draw the line if not at the law?
Great!
I can't believe anyone could watch this and say "its such a shame" or "What a talent"
He drove like a fking moron, how he hasn't killed someone is a miracle
http://youtu.be/gpAzXqIcWzc
He drove like a f
king moron, how he hasn't killed someone is a miraclehttp://youtu.be/gpAzXqIcWzc
Spyder5 said:
I can't believe anyone could watch this and say "its such a shame" or "What a talent"
He drove like a fking moron, how he hasn't killed someone is a miracle
http://youtu.be/gpAzXqIcWzc
The bloke crossing the road at 50secs in sums up why the world is a better place without this man, if that wasn't someone more alert (Such as an OAP or young infant), they'd either be dead or seriously injured.He drove like a f
king moron, how he hasn't killed someone is a miraclehttp://youtu.be/gpAzXqIcWzc
crosseyedlion said:
The fact he was not driving at the time is almost irrelevant
Right, so: a chap who films himself driving dangerously on occasion, dies in an unrelated accident as a passenger. Are you suggesting that he deserved to die for his alleged crimes ?crosseyedlion said:
this is someone who revelled in endangering others and liked to express that to the world.
"Reveled"? Really? crosseyedlion said:
Im not one of those 'oh think of the children!' types but he is not different to my example.
Err, quite.ezi said:
mrmr96 said:
Oh yes - the PH lynchmob/bandwagon is in full swing.
BUT whilst his driving appears wreckless, did he actually kill or injure anyone with his antics?
How many PHers speed, or get a 'dab of oppo' on from time to time?
Both parties actions are illegal and dangerous, but this guy is lynched for crossing some other threshold of acceptability? Where do you draw the line if not at the law?
So taking your ideology, it's acceptable for me to drive past a primary school at finishing time doing 100+ so long as I don't hit anybody the first time? Not only this but it's comparable to someone doing 75 on an empty motorway?BUT whilst his driving appears wreckless, did he actually kill or injure anyone with his antics?
How many PHers speed, or get a 'dab of oppo' on from time to time?
Both parties actions are illegal and dangerous, but this guy is lynched for crossing some other threshold of acceptability? Where do you draw the line if not at the law?
Great!
What I said is "where do you draw the line"? I suggested illegal vs. legal as a place to draw the line as anything else is going to be arbitrary. What do you suggest? In your analogy if 100mph at 3:30pm is no ok, what about 35mph at 5pm? Do you see my point?
crabbit said:
crosseyedlion said:
The fact he was not driving at the time is almost irrelevant
Right, so: a chap who films himself driving dangerously on occasion, dies in an unrelated accident as a passenger. Are you suggesting that he deserved to die for his alleged crimes ?crosseyedlion said:
this is someone who revelled in endangering others and liked to express that to the world.
"Reveled"? Really? crosseyedlion said:
Im not one of those 'oh think of the children!' types but he is not different to my example.
Err, quite.Films himself on "occasion" you say, there are various videos of the guys insane driving, to defend this guy means you are short on IQ or I would guess you are 14 years old.
crabbit said:
crosseyedlion said:
The fact he was not driving at the time is almost irrelevant
Right, so: a chap who films himself driving dangerously on occasion, dies in an unrelated accident as a passenger. Are you suggesting that he deserved to die for his alleged crimes ?crosseyedlion said:
this is someone who revelled in endangering others and liked to express that to the world.
"Reveled"? Really? crosseyedlion said:
Im not one of those 'oh think of the children!' types but he is not different to my example.
Err, quite.And...I enjoy driving, lots. Not particularly slowly. But some people really don't realise they're piloting a machine weighing around 2 tons and the kinetic energy that involves. It gets worse when driven deliberately beyond the limits of adhesion in situations where other people could get seriously hurt. There are so many variables he could not control. But no f*ck$ where given.
jeebus said:
I cannot belive you are even trying to defend the guy, ok he was a passenger and nobody deserves to die, but to die in a M5 in a built up area like in the pictures dosent take a rocket scientist to see what happened.
Films himself on "occasion" you say, there are various videos of the guys insane driving, to defend this guy means you are short on IQ or I would guess you are 14 years old.
No my friend; I'm afraid it is you who is low on IQ if you cannot comprehend my posts. At NO point have I defended the guy. All I have done is to question the notion that he somehow deserved to die in an accident that appears not to be his doing (on the pretence that he was indeed a passenger). Films himself on "occasion" you say, there are various videos of the guys insane driving, to defend this guy means you are short on IQ or I would guess you are 14 years old.
What irritates me about people who drive like that - whether it be 25 year old "you tube superstars" or 19 year olds in chavmobiles is the fact they only avoid accidents because evryone else gets out of their way - they survive because we have a sense of self-preservation and not because they are driving gods.
As such, they never learn what total pricks they are until it's too late.........
Also, further to some comments above, yes we might all "enjoy the odd dab of oppo" but we don't (at least I dammed well hope nobody on PH does) do it in crowded town centres at 3x the speed limit or anywhere where we are likely to injure anyone except our own stupid selves
As such, they never learn what total pricks they are until it's too late.........
Also, further to some comments above, yes we might all "enjoy the odd dab of oppo" but we don't (at least I dammed well hope nobody on PH does) do it in crowded town centres at 3x the speed limit or anywhere where we are likely to injure anyone except our own stupid selves
crosseyedlion said:
He revelled in it, if he didn't enjoy it (enhanced by its shock factor) he wouldn't have recorded it or put the videos online.
And...I enjoy driving, lots. Not particularly slowly. But some people really don't realise they're piloting a machine weighing around 2 tons and the kinetic energy that involves. It gets worse when driven deliberately beyond the limits of adhesion in situations where other people could get seriously hurt. There are so many variables he could not control. But no f*ck$ where given.
Agreed. But answer my question And...I enjoy driving, lots. Not particularly slowly. But some people really don't realise they're piloting a machine weighing around 2 tons and the kinetic energy that involves. It gets worse when driven deliberately beyond the limits of adhesion in situations where other people could get seriously hurt. There are so many variables he could not control. But no f*ck$ where given.
Did he deserve to die?
bqf said:
Disco You said:
bqf said:
Thats just ludicrous driving - unbelievable. I'm amazed he got to 25 years old.
According to the thread linked to above, it was his friend who was driving:Kazahk015 said:
The 'street drifter' was actually in the passenger seat at the time of the accident, and his friend was driving the car. Sadly, Giorgi Tevzadze died when the car lost control, hit a tree with the right side.
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