RE: Porsche Panamera facelift: Review

RE: Porsche Panamera facelift: Review

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CDP

7,460 posts

255 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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ajprice said:
If they go with the rear end of the Sport Turismo concept for the next Panamera, all will be good.

+1


rtz62

3,371 posts

156 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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In my eyes that is a vast improveet over the Pandemonium.

If I had the cash, id have the top of the range petrol turbo, but reality suggests it would be the diseasel that graced my garage.

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

148 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Still like it, (looks 'n' all),would have the V6 if i had the money i wonder how cheap the big petrol ones are getting..........off to the classifieds i think.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

162 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Stupid is as stupid does.


kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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ajprice said:
If they go with the rear end of the Sport Turismo concept for the next Panamera, all will be good.

yes That's a very handsome car.

CDP

7,460 posts

255 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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kambites said:
yes That's a very handsome car.
Some hints of 456 estate in there. Which I approve of a lot.

omgus

7,305 posts

176 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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CDP said:
ajprice said:
If they go with the rear end of the Sport Turismo concept for the next Panamera, all will be good.

+1
That looks at right to me as the regular Panamera looked wrong when i first saw it.

EdM

182 posts

174 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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+2 typical Porsche substance over style....just sort the ridiculous back end and we have the car that the Panamera should be... p.s. sack the bloke who designed the original back end botch job...(and it is)...otherwise a properly cracking car
ajprice said:
If they go with the rear end of the Sport Turismo concept for the next Panamera, all will be good.

juansolo

3,012 posts

279 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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+3 or 4 or whatever it is. The back end the Panamera should have had.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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toppstuff said:
Don't see the point of the "facelift" though.
We shouldn't really be surprised, given how the 911 has changed over its lifetime.

B10

1,240 posts

268 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Is this new V6 based upon an Audi unit or is it solely a Porsche engine?

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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I'm sure this is very capable but Porsche have dialled out any desirability to zero. The interior looks a nice place to be but I'd always be thinking about the outside.

The concept shown looks like an obvious answer. the downside is that if they do release that, the Panamera will be consigned to the ugly dustbin of history and prices will torpedo - good for some but not potential buyers.Still, look at the old VW Type 3s - I can see Panameras in the future being slammed and stanced and ....oh dear, I have to lie down. wink

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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B10 said:
Is this new V6 based upon an Audi unit or is it solely a Porsche engine?
I don't know, but I'd imagine it's a development Audi unit. I don't think Porsche have any V engines of their own these days do they; isn't the V8 a (heavily) modified Audi lump too?

Even if the V8 is their own, it would be madness for them to develop their own V6 with so many lumps available in-house.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 25th June 08:31

Carl_Docklands

12,233 posts

263 months

j90gta

563 posts

135 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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The interior is wonderful and at least if you drive it you don't have to look at it! One of few cars that make a Bentley Conti feel small; they are just so wide. It's such a shame that a car that is so well sorted dynamically is so challenging to look at.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Stu R said:
I'd have the GTS in a heartbeat.
Really don't see them as an ugly car - quite the opposite. Rare opinion on here I know, but it's much less revolting than many other uber-barges to my eyes.
Not totally sold on the rear, but then it never was the most photogenic of cars, significantly better in the metal though IMO.

Edited by Stu R on Monday 24th June 14:57
+1

I think they look a lot more at home blasting down the autobahn and through european towns and cities than they do over here for some reason. They just look like they "belong" over there (in a nice way!).

darreni

3,801 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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I think they have got better looking with time (to my eyes anyway) & 91mpg! WOW!

Remarkable.

Escort Si-130

3,273 posts

181 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Still a stupid shape ugly as fk Fattymera

B10

1,240 posts

268 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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kambites said:
B10 said:
Is this new V6 based upon an Audi unit or is it solely a Porsche engine?
I don't know, but I'd imagine it's a development Audi unit. I don't think Porsche have any V engines of their own these days do they; isn't the V8 a (heavily) modified Audi lump too?

Even if the V8 is their own, it would be madness for them to develop their own V6 with so many lumps available in-house.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 25th June 08:31
I agree. However I think that the V8 pre-dates the VW takeover and is their own design.
The shame is that the difference between the different VAG brands is getting further diluted. I understand then reasons but Bentley, Audi, Porsche, Lambo and forthcoming Bugatti are the upmarket VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda. The Porsche flat 6 is only really the only non shared engine and the 911 / boxster (up to the bulkhead) the only non platform shared chassis.

Leebo310

174 posts

140 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Aside from being forever way out of my price range, I think it looks great and always have!

I'm sure a big chunk of the hatred of them is because of the Top Gear opinion anyway.