RE: Cosworth F1 engine for the road
Discussion
From the Jaguar press release about the C-X75
"The great achievements in the development of C-X75 prototypes - including cutting-edge hybrid technologies, carbon composite materials and advanced design solutions pioneered in association with Williams Advanced Engineering - will be utilised in other areas of research and development, innovative future products and next-generation engineering for the Jaguar and Land Rover brands."
"The great achievements in the development of C-X75 prototypes - including cutting-edge hybrid technologies, carbon composite materials and advanced design solutions pioneered in association with Williams Advanced Engineering - will be utilised in other areas of research and development, innovative future products and next-generation engineering for the Jaguar and Land Rover brands."
r11co said:
Yeah, right. The shape Lotus are in they'll be powering their cars with rubber bands soon, plus the only hope of Lotus road car survival is through the F1 team and they are firmly married to Renault engines.
First statement is balls, Exige S selling well and production ramping up to full speed again, finances under control finally. They simply now have owners that do not release future plans to the press until they are ready. But keep on with the ill informed nonsense if you prefer, it is in tune with PH editorial now that it has become auto express on the internet. Second point is illogical since these are two different companies and Group Lotus has no arrangement with Renault whatever. Group Lotus (or Hicom rather)has provided a very large loan to the Lotus F1 team and the F1 team has a partnership and licensing agreement with GL. That's it.
On a similar note, keep your eye out for a similar arrangement and a Lotus motorcycle imminently....
Now that he's dealt with, yes, this engine would be perfect for a future Elise type model, there's an Autocar drive video on youtube of the CX-75 and the engine sounds crazy. Like a totally insane bike engine.
Yep, I've never agreed with the "4 cylinders sound rubbish" sentiment. I love the sound of the old British sports cars (MGB and Lotus Elite) and the way they pop and bang on the downshift like rally cars. 
I even think my humble Focus 2.0l Zetec sounds pretty nice with the cold-air intake I added.
I think if they put a 1.6l engine putting out, say, 440BHP in a production car, that'll be a pretty unprecedented moment!
I even think my humble Focus 2.0l Zetec sounds pretty nice with the cold-air intake I added.
I think if they put a 1.6l engine putting out, say, 440BHP in a production car, that'll be a pretty unprecedented moment!
Is it April 1st again?
Now i realise that JLR has spent quite a bit of money on the stillborn CX-75 project and they naturally want to try to leverage some of that as "column inches" but seriously, are there any more super-tenuous linking stories they are going to release this week?
So Cosworth, lets see your 300bhp/l engine do 300bhp/l and:
1) CARB LEV3 / EU6 emissions (inc particulate matter) at all temperatures
2) Operate on all worldwide fuel grades
3) 160kkm durability for engine mechanics and aftertreatment
4) Pass all Worldwide / OEM sign-offs for noise, NVH, driveability, design for manufacture, re-cyclablity, productionisation and model lifecycle support, FMEA etc.
5) Pass all OEM in-territory sign off requirements (inc. -30degc to +50degC, altitude, and rough road)
When you've done all that, then you can crow on about how you have a new road car engine that "re-writes the rules" or whatever!
(i suspect, that when you've done all that, you'll perhaps realise that the 300bhp/l bit was actually the easy bit ;-)
Now i realise that JLR has spent quite a bit of money on the stillborn CX-75 project and they naturally want to try to leverage some of that as "column inches" but seriously, are there any more super-tenuous linking stories they are going to release this week?
So Cosworth, lets see your 300bhp/l engine do 300bhp/l and:
1) CARB LEV3 / EU6 emissions (inc particulate matter) at all temperatures
2) Operate on all worldwide fuel grades
3) 160kkm durability for engine mechanics and aftertreatment
4) Pass all Worldwide / OEM sign-offs for noise, NVH, driveability, design for manufacture, re-cyclablity, productionisation and model lifecycle support, FMEA etc.
5) Pass all OEM in-territory sign off requirements (inc. -30degc to +50degC, altitude, and rough road)
When you've done all that, then you can crow on about how you have a new road car engine that "re-writes the rules" or whatever!
(i suspect, that when you've done all that, you'll perhaps realise that the 300bhp/l bit was actually the easy bit ;-)
Renaultsport! Get on le blower and put it in the Twingo!
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