RE: Cosworth F1 engine for the road

RE: Cosworth F1 engine for the road

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MartiniBianco

140 posts

150 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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That's unlikely but it would be great to see that engine on a Lotus.

dinkel

26,953 posts

258 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Twincam16 said:
lgomgf said:
that would be nice to see and hear a 10.000 rpm in a "normal" road car
Then you'll be wanting one of these:



Produced peak power at 10,000rpm.
Utter riot cars - Bike engines! Chain driven!

JonnyVTEC

3,005 posts

175 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Max_Torque said:
300bhp/l and EU6 on port injection? I hope your cal team are good.................
GT86 style have DI aswell...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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JonnyVTEC said:
Max_Torque said:
300bhp/l and EU6 on port injection? I hope your cal team are good.................
GT86 style have DI aswell...
Probably will be forced to do so just to get enough fuel into each cylinder at those output levels. Unfortunately that will just be another nail in the coffin of this engine. Not much point in having a downsized low component count high specific output engine, and then needing 8 injectors, 2 fuel systems and about a million dyno/chassis rolls hrs to just calibrate the blending between them.......

it's also worth noting, that as cars become more hybridised, high specific output and downsizing start to actually become less usefull! (because you want to downsize/downspeed to meet the average load case (low) and yet still provide a high peak power, but when a 'lecy motor/battery is doing the low power stuff, you can go back to a "big" engine as an when you need the high power outputs. This also saves a massive amount of cost, which you can then spend on the hybrid bits.)

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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dinkel said:
Utter riot cars - Bike engines! Chain driven!
Only the very early ones, the one in the pic would have had a conventional live axle and propshaft.

TheRoadWarrior

1,241 posts

178 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
Only the very early ones, the one in the pic would have had a conventional live axle and propshaft.
Only the very early ones, the one in the pic would have had a conventional live axle and propshaft.
I didn't know about these early S cars (Too long thankfully!)

Sounds like a riot!

Goes off to look in the classified...........

pagani1

683 posts

202 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Maybe we can have a 4 cylinder Jaguar F-Type after all? Sell it for £40k and fulfill the promises made when first announced and give that bleddy Boxster a run for it's money, and yes put it in a Lotus as well what a bloody turn around that would be! Gosh my blood is coursing again!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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pagani1 said:
Maybe we can have a 4 cylinder Jaguar F-Type after all?
You soon will be able too, just not with quite such a silly engine in it...............

suffolk009

5,406 posts

165 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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There's generally a good deal of ill-feeling towards turbos on here. I don't understand why.

A little screamer of a turbo four cylinder is exactly what I'd like to see in the third model of McLarens line-up. Half a 12C V8 (does it work like that?), in something Elise sized would do very nicely.


busa turbo

228 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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How about one of these from Geoff Page Racing 1500cc 500hp 72kg all up!


peter450

1,650 posts

233 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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I dont think there's much of a market for high end sports cars with 4 pots, perhaps i'm mistaken but with high price tags comes the expectation of multi cyclinder powerplants

And i dont think this engine is going to be that cheap to build either

vanschpunk

143 posts

212 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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skyrover said:
There's a reason people are now referring to the ecoboost as the ecobang
Ecobang is an anagram of cosbang biggrin

MartiniBianco

140 posts

150 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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peter450 said:
I dont think there's much of a market for high end sports cars with 4 pots, perhaps i'm mistaken but with high price tags comes the expectation of multi cyclinder powerplants
With the hybrid eco-friendly crap that's coming up, I do think we'll see a 4/5 pot in a McLaren for the next gen.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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cathalm said:
On a similar note, keep your eye out for a similar arrangement and a Lotus motorcycle imminently....
rofl
Says it all. A brand that has lost its identity and has to resort to whoring itself.

Some Gump

12,696 posts

186 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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peter450 said:
I dont think there's much of a market for high end sports cars with 4 pots, perhaps i'm mistaken but with high price tags comes the expectation of multi cyclinder powerplants

And i dont think this engine is going to be that cheap to build either
I agree, except there is always a caveat.

There will always be a market for a high end car with an f1 engine, or f1 derived engine. Worked for ferrari; worked for porsche with their lm derived metzger unit, etc etc.

dinkel

26,953 posts

258 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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4C anyone?