Go-karter put thier hand in front of engine - why?

Go-karter put thier hand in front of engine - why?

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vrooom

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3,763 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Go-karter in this video clip putting thier hand in front of engine at end of straights. why they do it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGIGyZ7jPks

benters

1,459 posts

135 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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is this to richen the mixture and get more power

...Mole...

2,780 posts

192 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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I'd imagine they are changing Gear, although I don't know that much about Go-Karts so I could be wrong.

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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It did look as though he was putting his hand in front of the air intake. But what would that do, other than strangling the power?

GroundEffect

13,851 posts

157 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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benters said:
is this to richen the mixture and get more power
This. It can make a fair difference.


buggalugs

9,243 posts

238 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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GroundEffect said:
benters said:
is this to richen the mixture and get more power
This. It can make a fair difference.
Why wouldn't they just jet the carb properly in the first place?

It's going to be something weird and specific to those karts

vrooom

Original Poster:

3,763 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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GroundEffect said:
This. It can make a fair difference.
richen ? i thought leaning the mixture would produce more power?

afrochicken

1,166 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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They are covering the airbox so that it acts like a choke. That helps to cool the engine at the end of the straight (bear in mind these engines would be around 20000 rpm at the end of the straight and running as lean as possible), and helps give more power when the throttle is opened again. But it's mainly about helping to avoid seizing.

exgtt

2,067 posts

213 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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This ^ the chain snapped on one of my TKM karts and put a nice dent in the metal intake where my hand was a few seconds earlier doing the above. Nearly lost a finger!

MrBig

2,730 posts

130 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Been trying to decide whether to register on here or not for some years now, but thought I would bite the bullet to answer this question.

The theory I was taught when I started racing karts is thus:

Its a 2 stroke engine, so relies on the fuel for lubrication. When braking for a corner, you come off the throttle which shuts down the fuel (and therefore oil) supply, so you choke the engine to give it some oil while off the throttle. I don't know if it makes any difference to power coming out of the corner. I certainly don't recall it being any slower when I forgot to to it!

littleredrooster

5,542 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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MrBig said:
Been trying to decide whether to register on here or not for some years now, but thought I would bite the bullet to answer this question.

The theory I was taught when I started racing karts is thus:

Its a 2 stroke engine, so relies on the fuel for lubrication. When braking for a corner, you come off the throttle which shuts down the fuel (and therefore oil) supply, so you choke the engine to give it some oil while off the throttle. I don't know if it makes any difference to power coming out of the corner. I certainly don't recall it being any slower when I forgot to to it!
At last we have a winner!!

Thank you - saved me typing it.

HowMuchLonger

3,006 posts

194 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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littleredrooster said:
MrBig said:
Been trying to decide whether to register on here or not for some years now, but thought I would bite the bullet to answer this question.

The theory I was taught when I started racing karts is thus:

Its a 2 stroke engine, so relies on the fuel for lubrication. When braking for a corner, you come off the throttle which shuts down the fuel (and therefore oil) supply, so you choke the engine to give it some oil while off the throttle. I don't know if it makes any difference to power coming out of the corner. I certainly don't recall it being any slower when I forgot to to it!
At last we have a winner!!

Thank you - saved me typing it.
No it didn't. You retyped everything he said in order to do the quote.

littleredrooster

5,542 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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HowMuchLonger said:
No it didn't. You retyped everything he said in order to do the quote.
Eh? NotSureIfSerious?

RWD cossie wil

4,322 posts

174 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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I loved racing two stroke karts, properly fast with a gearbox! I always found lifting the throttle a mm or so gave a small increase in power as it leaned off, great for overtakes biggrin

Dracoro

8,691 posts

246 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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HowMuchLonger said:
littleredrooster said:
MrBig said:
Been trying to decide whether to register on here or not for some years now, but thought I would bite the bullet to answer this question.

The theory I was taught when I started racing karts is thus:

Its a 2 stroke engine, so relies on the fuel for lubrication. When braking for a corner, you come off the throttle which shuts down the fuel (and therefore oil) supply, so you choke the engine to give it some oil while off the throttle. I don't know if it makes any difference to power coming out of the corner. I certainly don't recall it being any slower when I forgot to to it!
At last we have a winner!!

Thank you - saved me typing it.
No it didn't. You retyped everything he said in order to do the quote.
Fookin' hell, took me ages to type up the above to quote biggrin I got everything 100% though, no typo's - took some proof reading I can tell you!!

If only there were quote buttons to save time, or even something newfangled like a "copy/paste" feature within operating systems.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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HowMuchLonger said:
littleredrooster said:
MrBig said:
Been trying to decide whether to register on here or not for some years now, but thought I would bite the bullet to answer this question.

The theory I was taught when I started racing karts is thus:

Its a 2 stroke engine, so relies on the fuel for lubrication. When braking for a corner, you come off the throttle which shuts down the fuel (and therefore oil) supply, so you choke the engine to give it some oil while off the throttle. I don't know if it makes any difference to power coming out of the corner. I certainly don't recall it being any slower when I forgot to to it!
At last we have a winner!!

Thank you - saved me typing it.
No it didn't. You retyped everything he said in order to do the quote.
This could be ambulans moment of the month.

Dracoro

8,691 posts

246 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Dracoro said:
HowMuchLonger said:
littleredrooster said:
MrBig said:
Been trying to decide whether to register on here or not for some years now, but thought I would bite the bullet to answer this question.

The theory I was taught when I started racing karts is thus:

Its a 2 stroke engine, so relies on the fuel for lubrication. When braking for a corner, you come off the throttle which shuts down the fuel (and therefore oil) supply, so you choke the engine to give it some oil while off the throttle. I don't know if it makes any difference to power coming out of the corner. I certainly don't recall it being any slower when I forgot to to it!
At last we have a winner!!

Thank you - saved me typing it.
No it didn't. You retyped everything he said in order to do the quote.
Fookin' hell, took me ages to type up the above to quote biggrin I got everything 100% though, no typo's - took some proof reading I can tell you!!

If only there were quote buttons to save time, or even something newfangled like a "copy/paste" feature within operating systems.
Oh gawd, I've gone and typed this ALL up AGAIN. phew.

Dracoro

8,691 posts

246 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Dracoro said:
Dracoro said:
HowMuchLonger said:
littleredrooster said:
MrBig said:
Been trying to decide whether to register on here or not for some years now, but thought I would bite the bullet to answer this question.

The theory I was taught when I started racing karts is thus:

Its a 2 stroke engine, so relies on the fuel for lubrication. When braking for a corner, you come off the throttle which shuts down the fuel (and therefore oil) supply, so you choke the engine to give it some oil while off the throttle. I don't know if it makes any difference to power coming out of the corner. I certainly don't recall it being any slower when I forgot to to it!
At last we have a winner!!

Thank you - saved me typing it.
No it didn't. You retyped everything he said in order to do the quote.
Fookin' hell, took me ages to type up the above to quote biggrin I got everything 100% though, no typo's - took some proof reading I can tell you!!

If only there were quote buttons to save time, or even something newfangled like a "copy/paste" feature within operating systems.
Oh gawd, I've gone and typed this ALL up AGAIN. phew.
Getting the hang of this now, can type really quickly.

Exige77

6,518 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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On the higher rpm engines you get max power when the engine is quite lean.

There is a danger that the engine might seize when lean, so some people will choke the engine at the end of the straight when off the throttle to give the motor a little "extra" lube while not slowing the Kart down.

That is the reason for it.

Ex77


littleredrooster

5,542 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Exige77 said:
On the higher rpm engines you get max power when the engine is quite lean.

There is a danger that the engine might seize when lean, so some people will choke the engine at the end of the straight when off the throttle to give the motor a little "extra" lube while not slowing the Kart down.

That is the reason for it.

Ex77

Hmmm...not really. The threat of seizure comes mainly from shutting the oil supply off at max revs, not so much from a lean mixture. If it was going to seize because of an overly-lean mixture, it would more likely do it when flat out on WOT.

As another side effect to this, however, is the cooling effect that a slug of rich mixture brings which will cool the piston and make it less likely to pop a hole in the crown.