Taking roundabouts "flat-out"
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S0 What said:
Are you the w
ker in the whits sprinter who pulled out in front of me in tottenham yesterday on Mollison AV after the 2 cars either side stopped to let me carry on round the roundabout and left me totaly sideways in my pickup truck? 
I do go round roundabout quite quickly (for an old truck) but still doing less than 25, yet there's allways some tosser who hasn't looked or planned the approach propperly and is going to fast/don't give a toss for the rules of the road and forces me to hammer on the anchors mid bend and end up sidewasy on a roundabout, it's got to the point where as i approach the entrance to the roundabout i'm going round i put me dipped on in an attempt to let those said tossers see me a bit clearer (and people wonder why DRLs are common place, not that it works that often.
The other peemeoff is when 2 vehicals enter the RaB and the outer driver just straightlines thier path and i end up UP the roundabout/skidding/beeping (deleit as appropriate) as they drive off unaware thay have even done anything wronge then look all offended when they get over taken and given the bird/a right mouthfull at the next set of lights.
ker in the whits sprinter who pulled out in front of me in tottenham yesterday on Mollison AV after the 2 cars either side stopped to let me carry on round the roundabout and left me totaly sideways in my pickup truck? I do go round roundabout quite quickly (for an old truck) but still doing less than 25, yet there's allways some tosser who hasn't looked or planned the approach propperly and is going to fast/don't give a toss for the rules of the road and forces me to hammer on the anchors mid bend and end up sidewasy on a roundabout, it's got to the point where as i approach the entrance to the roundabout i'm going round i put me dipped on in an attempt to let those said tossers see me a bit clearer (and people wonder why DRLs are common place, not that it works that often.
The other peemeoff is when 2 vehicals enter the RaB and the outer driver just straightlines thier path and i end up UP the roundabout/skidding/beeping (deleit as appropriate) as they drive off unaware thay have even done anything wronge then look all offended when they get over taken and given the bird/a right mouthfull at the next set of lights.
Edited by S0 What on Saturday 13th July 11:09
The only time that I have a problem with the speed of other vehicles on a roundabout is when I am dragging 44 tonnes, if this is a common enough occurrence for you to be making a thread about it then you must be doing something wrong.
Now people who don't indicate on roundabouts so that I either miss the opportunity to pull out or I end up pulling out in front of them and get abused, those people should be shot
Now people who don't indicate on roundabouts so that I either miss the opportunity to pull out or I end up pulling out in front of them and get abused, those people should be shot
s p a c e m a n said:
Now people who don't indicate on roundabouts so that I either miss the opportunity to pull out or I end up pulling out in front of them and get abused, those people should be shot
fking aholes. People turning right without indicating, causing me to pull out in front of them is a common occurrence. s p a c e m a n said:
Now people who don't indicate on roundabouts so that I either miss the opportunity to pull out or I end up pulling out in front of them and get abused, those people should be shot
People who don't indicate are massively annoying, it's not difficult is it? It's almost becoming a lost art!How about those silly mini roundabouts that have a hump (not just flat paint). I drive around them, had one dappy cow once behind me following me straight across. I went around the hump but she straight-lined the hump with a good thud to her suspension and almost went into the side of me. I guess she thought I was going left, although the lack of indicating left might have been a clue to her.
PumpkinSteve said:
fking aholes. People turning right without indicating, causing me to pull out in front of them is a common occurrence.
I understand what you're saying, incorrect or no indicating by others on roundabouts is irritating, but they aren't causing you to pull out in front of them; you're the one controlling whether your car moves or not.king aholes. People turning right without indicating, causing me to pull out in front of them is a common occurrence. PumpkinSteve said:
fking aholes. People turning right without indicating, causing me to pull out in front of them is a common occurrence.
Not so much people not indicating, it's the ones who do it in the wrong lane so you guess wrong. Outside lane, not indicating and then go mental when you pull out in front of them king aholes. People turning right without indicating, causing me to pull out in front of them is a common occurrence. 
PumpkinSteve said:
s p a c e m a n said:
Now people who don't indicate on roundabouts so that I either miss the opportunity to pull out or I end up pulling out in front of them and get abused, those people should be shot
fking aholes. People turning right without indicating, causing me to pull out in front of them is a common occurrence. 
s p a c e m a n said:
The only time that I have a problem with the speed of other vehicles on a roundabout is when I am dragging 44 tonnes, if this is a common enough occurrence for you to be making a thread about it then you must be doing something wrong.
Now people who don't indicate on roundabouts so that I either miss the opportunity to pull out or I end up pulling out in front of them and get abused, those people should be shot
I'm not talking about people who are going "a bit quick" I'm thinking of those who like to take the roundabout at 50 or so.Now people who don't indicate on roundabouts so that I either miss the opportunity to pull out or I end up pulling out in front of them and get abused, those people should be shot
It's completely unfair to emerge at that speed from a road that can't be seen by someone who is moving off from a standing start.
WRT to indicating & road position, annoying though it is you should never second guess what other people are doing & you should wait if there is any element of doubt which by your description you obviously are in doubt.
Thing is, if everyone decides to straight line roundabouts flat out then it will be carnage, you cant rely on there being nothing on a roundabout, I had to pick my lad up from near where I work, at the top of the drive to the office park is a mini roundabout and people straight line it, a colleague who had worked late came tearing out of work straight across, had I been doing the same, had I not slowed down adequately and looked properly like so many do I would have hit him, he was relying on me to drive cautiously, he got some stick the following day, he knew he was in the wrong.
If you can see properly its a different matter, the roundabout in the example above doesn't have great visibility, you can be ready to pull out and have about 75 feet of visible road, at 30 mph, 40 mph that's fine but the road changes to an NSL just before, if a car is doing sixty plus then there is not enough time, you either have to sit there all day or get your foot down, have seen so many conflicts there as technically, yes you can go across it at 60 mph, technically you have right of way but it still is a bad idea,
Not the best view but nearest I could get,
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=booths+park+knuts...
Can be fraught on a push bike.
If you can see properly its a different matter, the roundabout in the example above doesn't have great visibility, you can be ready to pull out and have about 75 feet of visible road, at 30 mph, 40 mph that's fine but the road changes to an NSL just before, if a car is doing sixty plus then there is not enough time, you either have to sit there all day or get your foot down, have seen so many conflicts there as technically, yes you can go across it at 60 mph, technically you have right of way but it still is a bad idea,
Not the best view but nearest I could get,
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=booths+park+knuts...
Can be fraught on a push bike.
I failed my first UK driving test for 'pulling out on someone' here... http://goo.gl/maps/cBnVF
http://goo.gl/maps/Mci80 is another of my favourites - that oddly placed <<< sign is perfectly positioned to block you from seeing cars indicating around the roundabout
http://goo.gl/maps/Mci80 is another of my favourites - that oddly placed <<< sign is perfectly positioned to block you from seeing cars indicating around the roundabout
Does anyone else find that you always seem to end up with someone trying desparately to get alongside on a roundabout exit, or is it just a Surrey problem?
I always try to ensure I am not alongside anyone by an exit, to avoid the inevitable squeezing as someone stright lines the roundbaout with no thought to who might be alongside them. However, it is quite difficult, as drivers around here always seem to want to share the space with someone.
Think these are the same types of drivers who pull out to overtake on a dual carriageway, then sit alongside you for mile on mile without actually getting in front, or those who are happy to sit for miles alongside a lorry, coach or other big chunk of metal which could easily put them in hospital if it swerved suddenly.
Maybe I'm a bit touchy about this, but I just want some space, I want my safety bubble if you like.
I always try to ensure I am not alongside anyone by an exit, to avoid the inevitable squeezing as someone stright lines the roundbaout with no thought to who might be alongside them. However, it is quite difficult, as drivers around here always seem to want to share the space with someone.
Think these are the same types of drivers who pull out to overtake on a dual carriageway, then sit alongside you for mile on mile without actually getting in front, or those who are happy to sit for miles alongside a lorry, coach or other big chunk of metal which could easily put them in hospital if it swerved suddenly.
Maybe I'm a bit touchy about this, but I just want some space, I want my safety bubble if you like.
Turkey said:
Does anyone else find that you always seem to end up with someone trying desparately to get alongside on a roundabout exit, or is it just a Surrey problem?
I always try to ensure I am not alongside anyone by an exit, to avoid the inevitable squeezing as someone stright lines the roundbaout with no thought to who might be alongside them. However, it is quite difficult, as drivers around here always seem to want to share the space with someone.
Think these are the same types of drivers who pull out to overtake on a dual carriageway, then sit alongside you for mile on mile without actually getting in front, or those who are happy to sit for miles alongside a lorry, coach or other big chunk of metal which could easily put them in hospital if it swerved suddenly.
Maybe I'm a bit touchy about this, but I just want some space, I want my safety bubble if you like.
I try to be very explicit with my indicating and positioning, but you still get loads of knobsI always try to ensure I am not alongside anyone by an exit, to avoid the inevitable squeezing as someone stright lines the roundbaout with no thought to who might be alongside them. However, it is quite difficult, as drivers around here always seem to want to share the space with someone.
Think these are the same types of drivers who pull out to overtake on a dual carriageway, then sit alongside you for mile on mile without actually getting in front, or those who are happy to sit for miles alongside a lorry, coach or other big chunk of metal which could easily put them in hospital if it swerved suddenly.
Maybe I'm a bit touchy about this, but I just want some space, I want my safety bubble if you like.
What annoys me are the people who enter the roundabout in the right hand lane and then exit the roundabout either in the straight ahead or the right turn by cutting straight across the three lanes to exit in the left lane. I am always wary that some plonker is going to cut me up, so I give him space or get ahead if there is room so that I can exit in the correct lane before he does cut me up.
The above refers to driving in the UK. Living in Turkey now I find I have to adopt a defensive strategy to driving and assume that the drivers will do the unexpected, which they most often do. Turkish drivers have NO idea about how to negotiate roundabouts and quite normally they stop to let traffic join. In the village where I live there is only one roundabout and even the lines on the road are painted to give priority to the joining traffic - even though that is incorrect.
Expect the unexpected!!
The above refers to driving in the UK. Living in Turkey now I find I have to adopt a defensive strategy to driving and assume that the drivers will do the unexpected, which they most often do. Turkish drivers have NO idea about how to negotiate roundabouts and quite normally they stop to let traffic join. In the village where I live there is only one roundabout and even the lines on the road are painted to give priority to the joining traffic - even though that is incorrect.
Expect the unexpected!!
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