What a total ****** ****ing tossing pr*ck
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02verco said:
you don't go buying a car like that bring it into work and then brag and tell all the staff to cum and have a look, being quite and not rubbing it in people's face would be nice!
Bore off. That never happened, did it? "Well, yer, it did, cos my m8 said so. Dave from admin told me that Steve from accounts heard Bob from the warehouse tell Johnny from HR that Jim from reception saw the MD show Rupert from the SMT around his six-year-old car in the morning. The dirty b
d."Previous company I worked for, regional director turned up to an office to have a meeting, the purpose of which was to lay off the whole office, people knew he was coming and the purpose for it.
He parked right outside the doors where everyone could see, in his brand spanking new Jag XF company car he picked up a couple of days before.
That really wound up a lot of people.
He parked right outside the doors where everyone could see, in his brand spanking new Jag XF company car he picked up a couple of days before.
That really wound up a lot of people.
Face for Radio said:
Previous company I worked for, regional director turned up to an office to have a meeting, the purpose of which was to lay off the whole office, people knew he was coming and the purpose for it.
He parked right outside the doors where everyone could see, in his brand spanking new Jag XF company car he picked up a couple of days before.
That really wound up a lot of people.
We advise and help organizations to do these things properly. Two of the things on our very long checklist are: take a pool car if you're parking on site and leave the Rolex at home. It's just good manners - people aren't stupid and they know the guy in the suit takes home ten times what they do, but there are times when it's just thoughtless to draw attention to the fact.He parked right outside the doors where everyone could see, in his brand spanking new Jag XF company car he picked up a couple of days before.
That really wound up a lot of people.
Face for Radio said:
Previous company I worked for, regional director turned up to an office to have a meeting, the purpose of which was to lay off the whole office, people knew he was coming and the purpose for it.
He parked right outside the doors where everyone could see, in his brand spanking new Jag XF company car he picked up a couple of days before.
That really wound up a lot of people.
We had something similar at my last company where the MD turned up in a brand new DB9 a couple of days after we all got a letter to say we won't be receiving any sort of inflationary pay increase. It was his own money but it's in pretty poor taste, everyone boycotted the xmas dinner later that year in protest of this He parked right outside the doors where everyone could see, in his brand spanking new Jag XF company car he picked up a couple of days before.
That really wound up a lot of people.
What a bunch of ste.
If it's so easy to earn loads on other people's work, why aren't you doing it?
I don't understand the mentality that says you're unhappy withyour lot BECAUSE someone else is doing better. If you're happy with your lot, be happy. If you're not, do something to change it. If the MD had an old mondeo it wouldn't change your life whatsoever - no point in being bitter about it.
te.If it's so easy to earn loads on other people's work, why aren't you doing it?
I don't understand the mentality that says you're unhappy withyour lot BECAUSE someone else is doing better. If you're happy with your lot, be happy. If you're not, do something to change it. If the MD had an old mondeo it wouldn't change your life whatsoever - no point in being bitter about it.
I was present on the day the administrators were called in to a car dealership in Bournemouth some years back. The accountant appointed as administrator arrived in his Bentley, which in those days was a rare car.
My boss who had called him in on behalf of a bank had a quiet word with him, to the effect that if he turned up in it again he wouldn't be getting any more calls from us.
Meanwhile all the staff were driving the vehicle stock around in circles so he couldn't put it onto transporters
My boss who had called him in on behalf of a bank had a quiet word with him, to the effect that if he turned up in it again he wouldn't be getting any more calls from us.
Meanwhile all the staff were driving the vehicle stock around in circles so he couldn't put it onto transporters
Some Gump said:
What a bunch of ste.
If it's so easy to earn loads on other people's work, why aren't you doing it?
I don't understand the mentality that says you're unhappy withyour lot BECAUSE someone else is doing better. If you're happy with your lot, be happy. If you're not, do something to change it. If the MD had an old mondeo it wouldn't change your life whatsoever - no point in being bitter about it.
te.If it's so easy to earn loads on other people's work, why aren't you doing it?
I don't understand the mentality that says you're unhappy withyour lot BECAUSE someone else is doing better. If you're happy with your lot, be happy. If you're not, do something to change it. If the MD had an old mondeo it wouldn't change your life whatsoever - no point in being bitter about it.
Just typical envy IMO
Um, surely the anger is down to the fact that the owner of a company has taken money out of the company and paid themselves allot had at least a little to do with the failure of the company?
I do think people have a right to be angry when the owner or MD of a failing company is paid so well. Yes, when your company is doing well that is the gain of taking that risk, and well done for it, but when the other side of the risk comes along and you are still making massive sums of course people are going to be pissed. Don't tell me that they get that through taking a risk when they refuse to give it up to keep the company running, or wind down the company in a professional way, and the people who supposedly loose by not taking the risk get st on with wage freezes and no redundancy pay.
I do think people have a right to be angry when the owner or MD of a failing company is paid so well. Yes, when your company is doing well that is the gain of taking that risk, and well done for it, but when the other side of the risk comes along and you are still making massive sums of course people are going to be pissed. Don't tell me that they get that through taking a risk when they refuse to give it up to keep the company running, or wind down the company in a professional way, and the people who supposedly loose by not taking the risk get s
t on with wage freezes and no redundancy pay.The firm that I used to work for was bought out by another firm a few years back. The usual cobblers came out being "Tough decisions have to be made, we would like to keep everyone but it is inevitable that some redundancies will happen, all pay is frozen etc".
Everyone was warned that once the 6 month TUPE arrangement had expired nobody could have a guarenteed job at the end of it etc (which it later turned out that lots did).....
THEN they spent £150k on a "welcoming party" in London including paying Michael Mcintyre £30k for 20 minutes worth of the same old rubbish that he does when he is on the telly!!
I'm quite pleased that I'd already left by that point
Everyone was warned that once the 6 month TUPE arrangement had expired nobody could have a guarenteed job at the end of it etc (which it later turned out that lots did).....
THEN they spent £150k on a "welcoming party" in London including paying Michael Mcintyre £30k for 20 minutes worth of the same old rubbish that he does when he is on the telly!!
I'm quite pleased that I'd already left by that point
My mate used to work for a company and the MD had a succession of fast company cars starting with a BMW M3 and ending in a Ferrari 355.
While he was there my mate never got a decent salary, the Bonus was his boss giving him £20 when he saw him in the pub and every year there was a sob story as to why the company couldn't afford to give a payrise.
My mate got sick and left. The company no longer exists now. Apparently it had cash flow problems...
On a related note, I read Duncan Bannantyne's autobiograqphy a few years back. One of the biggest reasons he cited for companies failing was people at the top taking too much money/perks for themselves at a time when the business couldn't afford it.
While he was there my mate never got a decent salary, the Bonus was his boss giving him £20 when he saw him in the pub and every year there was a sob story as to why the company couldn't afford to give a payrise.
My mate got sick and left. The company no longer exists now. Apparently it had cash flow problems...
On a related note, I read Duncan Bannantyne's autobiograqphy a few years back. One of the biggest reasons he cited for companies failing was people at the top taking too much money/perks for themselves at a time when the business couldn't afford it.
Sid's Dad said:
Face for Radio said:
Previous company I worked for, regional director turned up to an office to have a meeting, the purpose of which was to lay off the whole office, people knew he was coming and the purpose for it.
He parked right outside the doors where everyone could see, in his brand spanking new Jag XF company car he picked up a couple of days before.
That really wound up a lot of people.
We advise and help organizations to do these things properly. Two of the things on our very long checklist are: take a pool car if you're parking on site and leave the Rolex at home. It's just good manners - people aren't stupid and they know the guy in the suit takes home ten times what they do, but there are times when it's just thoughtless to draw attention to the fact.He parked right outside the doors where everyone could see, in his brand spanking new Jag XF company car he picked up a couple of days before.
That really wound up a lot of people.
I had the pleasure of knowing Frank Taylor of TW when I was younger. He used to arrive in a Ford Granada/Scorpio when visiting workers and always wore a knackered old watch that he paid a lot to keep working as it was given to him by some of his early builders. He made sure that during the lean times while all his staff were fully aware of his wealth it was never displayed so overtly.
I doubt anyone really has a problem with seeing the MD doing well.
I suspect it's a bigger concern though when you're being told that the company is in trouble and may not survive, yet the person who is supposed to be making prudent decisions in the interests of the company is raking so much out of it that they can afford to buy another luxury car.
That's a sign that perhaps the person in charge may not have the company's interests at heart?
I suspect it's a bigger concern though when you're being told that the company is in trouble and may not survive, yet the person who is supposed to be making prudent decisions in the interests of the company is raking so much out of it that they can afford to buy another luxury car.
That's a sign that perhaps the person in charge may not have the company's interests at heart?
The problem here is not the fact that the guy has done well for himself its how this has come about.
To all those not seeing a problem here, do you think it acceptable that members of staff are not paid on time? Or are you really thinking well done for making staffs lives extra difficult just because he can.
Nobody here is begrudging the owners wealth but when you run business I'd expect the owner to have respect for his staff as a minimum. His actions show no honour or class. Good luck to you if you have the means to buy an Aston but you don't take it into work where you're not even paying the staff.
My Boss seems to have a new top end car every 6 months but then he pays me a decent wage, on time and I get rewarded for my hard work therefore chapeau to the man that feeds me.
To all those not seeing a problem here, do you think it acceptable that members of staff are not paid on time? Or are you really thinking well done for making staffs lives extra difficult just because he can.
Nobody here is begrudging the owners wealth but when you run business I'd expect the owner to have respect for his staff as a minimum. His actions show no honour or class. Good luck to you if you have the means to buy an Aston but you don't take it into work where you're not even paying the staff.
My Boss seems to have a new top end car every 6 months but then he pays me a decent wage, on time and I get rewarded for my hard work therefore chapeau to the man that feeds me.
It is fair to say that if certain people put their own money into starting a business, which then goes
on to employ others, they should be able to get something back from it, since they are generally not a charity, nor generally do they start such businesses with the specific aim of providing jobs for others.
The thing I find hard to swallow are those businesses / organisations (which include governments and government organisations) in which their performance can only be described as having been abject appauling failures (such as the banks etc), where the directors feel that they should still get pay rises,and bonuses regardless of how poor the company has performed.
In many cases as described above, the workforce itself has not a had a pay rise or bonus since 2008, but with cuts in staffing and equipment levels etc they have had to work even harder to keep a business going.
How can any UK government quango state that an 11% pay rise is justified when UK governments over the last 20 years are more deserving of being placed against a firing squad wall than recieving improvements in their pay and conditions. The shock is that a so called government commitee on pay and conditions, has deemed that politicians are actually deserving of increased pay. If politicians
get this rise it can only be right that every one is deserving of 11% increased pay.
on to employ others, they should be able to get something back from it, since they are generally not a charity, nor generally do they start such businesses with the specific aim of providing jobs for others.
The thing I find hard to swallow are those businesses / organisations (which include governments and government organisations) in which their performance can only be described as having been abject appauling failures (such as the banks etc), where the directors feel that they should still get pay rises,and bonuses regardless of how poor the company has performed.
In many cases as described above, the workforce itself has not a had a pay rise or bonus since 2008, but with cuts in staffing and equipment levels etc they have had to work even harder to keep a business going.
How can any UK government quango state that an 11% pay rise is justified when UK governments over the last 20 years are more deserving of being placed against a firing squad wall than recieving improvements in their pay and conditions. The shock is that a so called government commitee on pay and conditions, has deemed that politicians are actually deserving of increased pay. If politicians
get this rise it can only be right that every one is deserving of 11% increased pay.
Sorry to hear that, like some have said, it might be that the cars are not tied to the business, he may have to sell them soon as a result of cut backs, he may have taken huge loans out for them, he might be in the st too. I agree though, I wouldn't have turned up to work under those circumstances in such cars, I'd get a taxi in.
t too. I agree though, I wouldn't have turned up to work under those circumstances in such cars, I'd get a taxi in.Blue Oval84 said:
I doubt anyone really has a problem with seeing the MD doing well.
I suspect it's a bigger concern though when you're being told that the company is in trouble and may not survive, yet the person who is supposed to be making prudent decisions in the interests of the company is raking so much out of it that they can afford to buy another luxury car.
That's a sign that perhaps the person in charge may not have the company's interests at heart?
Stop being so reasonable. You have two options on PH.I suspect it's a bigger concern though when you're being told that the company is in trouble and may not survive, yet the person who is supposed to be making prudent decisions in the interests of the company is raking so much out of it that they can afford to buy another luxury car.
That's a sign that perhaps the person in charge may not have the company's interests at heart?
1. All management are scum who should have their heads on spikes.
2. Management are not to be criticised under any circumstances and any complaints are down to jealousy and any complainers should have worked harder in school.
The possibility that managers could be ever be incompetent, greedy or overtaken by events beyond their control are not to be considered under any circumstances.
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