People that block overtakes.

People that block overtakes.

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backwoodsman

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2,469 posts

130 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Yesterday I was driving down a road that is so wide could easily take 3 cars side by side.

It's a NSL, and over a mile straight.

But for some reason, yesterday, a numpty decided he wanted to drive down it at 40, no problem, I'll just overtake him.

Oh no I wont, as I indicated, and pulled out to overtake, he decided to move over and block me, he did this twice more, before I decided my blood pressure was climbing, and decided to stay behind him until a layby, where I pulled in for ten minutes to let the muppet get out of the area.

Why do people like this do it?

Would you have reported this to the police, it must be some sort of offense?

Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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What a tosser! Shame you didn't have someone to film it on a phone - that would have been great to take to the police.

Most blatant example I've had was on a pretty empty M62 on a four lane section. I had a bloke weaving across all 4 lanes in an effort to stop me passing - this wasn't some speed jockey either, he was doing about 60 when I came up behind him and me about 70. Weirdo.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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If you had it on video then it may be seen as a form of dangerous driving. There is little else that can be done without some form of proof.

And while such actions are indeed stupid, I tend to find there is usually more than one side to each story. If the road was indeed as wide was you say, then why did you not use the other side of the road for the overtake? Or was it not really clear enough to do so and you were trying to create your own personal middle lane just to get past?

backwoodsman

Original Poster:

2,469 posts

130 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Dog Star said:
Most blatant example I've had was on a pretty empty M62 on a four lane section. I had a bloke weaving across all 4 lanes in an effort to stop me passing - this wasn't some speed jockey either, he was doing about 60 when I came up behind him and me about 70. Weirdo.
I though yesterday was bad enough, but that sounds insane.

randomman

2,215 posts

190 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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This could be seen as dangerous driving, and that is very much an offense, unfortunately without a dash cam the police wouldn't be able to do anything due to lack of evidence. Now with a dash cam they wouldn't be able to do anything due to lack of being bothered.

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news.

DaveCWK

1,996 posts

175 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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One of the reasons most of my overtakes feature the words 'surprise' and 'power'

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
And while such actions are indeed stupid, I tend to find there is usually more than one side to each story. If the road was indeed as wide was you say, then why did you not use the other side of the road for the overtake? Or was it not really clear enough to do so and you were trying to create your own personal middle lane just to get past?


Because he was being blocked by the other guy?

I know on PH the OP is always wrong apparently, but his first post is fairly self-explanatory.

danjama

5,728 posts

143 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Name and shame this sucker. What's his plate?

backwoodsman

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2,469 posts

130 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
And while such actions are indeed stupid, I tend to find there is usually more than one side to each story. If the road was indeed as wide was you say, then why did you not use the other side of the road for the overtake? Or was it not really clear enough to do so and you were trying to create your own personal middle lane just to get past?
Fair question, the guy was fully moving onto the wrong side of the road, I could have probably got by him if I had been more aggressive, but it's not worth it.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Johnnytheboy said:
Because he was being blocked by the other guy?

I know on PH the OP is always wrong apparently, but his first post is fairly self-explanatory.
Did you not see the question mark in my post ????? ie a question, not a statement. wink

swisstoni

17,048 posts

280 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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I have never been blatantly blocked but I do sometimes notice an increase in speed by the car being overtaken. Pathetic and dangerous.

backwoodsman

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2,469 posts

130 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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swisstoni said:
I have never been blatantly blocked but I do sometimes notice an increase in speed by the car being overtaken. Pathetic and dangerous.
When this happens, I wonder if they are trying to block the overtake, or they were not paying attention, and realize how slow they are going, and speed up without thinking.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

150 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Weird behaviour. Round here, we have a bottleneck 2 lanes into 1 30mph main road that is poorly designed in that just after the lanes merge there are three right turn junctions. That causes queueing on its own, so you get selfish drivers belting down the 2nd lane & forcing their way in at the last minute rather than merging in turn & taking their share of the delay.

I quite often see people straddling the 2nd lane to stop this happening & that is the only circumstance where I don't mind it as it contributes to the flow of traffic.

Stenjay

2,239 posts

135 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Well done for pulling in, absolutely the right thing to do. Not worth getting involved any further.

What an utter tool. Were you perhaps driving a little too closely behind him prior to the overtake? It doesn't of course justify his actions but it does tend to annoy people.

waynedear

2,182 posts

168 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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swisstoni said:
I have never been blatantly blocked but I do sometimes notice an increase in speed by the car being overtaken. Pathetic and dangerous.
Happens all the time, car in front is doing 65, all of a sudden you have to do 75 just to get past, you get in front slow down to 67 and they go back to 65....

Kermit power

28,692 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Justin Cyder said:
Weird behaviour. Round here, we have a bottleneck 2 lanes into 1 30mph main road that is poorly designed in that just after the lanes merge there are three right turn junctions. That causes queueing on its own, so you get selfish drivers belting down the 2nd lane & forcing their way in at the last minute rather than merging in turn & taking their share of the delay.

I quite often see people straddling the 2nd lane to stop this happening & that is the only circumstance where I don't mind it as it contributes to the flow of traffic.
Erm... You do realise that "merge in turn" means people going down both lanes and then taking in turn to go one from the left hand and one from the right hand lane, don't you?

The people driving up the right hand lane are doing the right thing according to the Highway Code. The people driving up the left hand lane are also doing the right thing according to the Highway Code, although they're being somewhat dopey if they just join the back of the queue in the left hand lane when the right hand lane is empty, as they're just causing traffic to back up further than it has to in the left hand lane.

People who straddle the two lanes to stop other people driving perfectly acceptably are complete s who deserve to have their scrotums nailed to the tarmac.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

150 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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I do realise that. But you are describing a perfect world & every day I see wkers barging their way in & causing the delays in the first place. In practice, the boys in the white vans for it usually that subspecies see the car up ahead blocking the lane, see sense, pull in earlier & the whole thing flows better than if Mr. fk off out of my way had pulled his selfish st.

I have no qualms with it at all.

panholio

1,080 posts

149 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Is the psychology something the do with "pushing in"

The British fetish for queuing?

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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DaveCWK said:
One of the reasons most of my overtakes feature the words 'surprise' and 'power'
yeah, that.

Follow like a stalker without any hint to want to pass, then blast past before numpty mcwkerbrain has registered you're wanting to overtake.

Had a couple of close calls in the past with "I'd-rather-die-in-a-fireball-than-be-overtaken" spanners over the years when attempting sensible overtakes, often in horribly underpowered PoS vans where overtakes are carefully planned and executed manuevers and you simply can't react to the average car deciding to play dare with the lives of others. Partly why my current work van is the vito 120 (which has the 200BHP V6 TDI)

The other solution is a big 4x4 with bullbars. People just don't fk with you to anywhere near the same degree was my experience.

Benbay001

5,801 posts

158 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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DaveCWK said:
One of the reasons most of my overtakes feature the words 'surprise' and 'power'
Yep! biggrin
By the time they know im coming past, im already past! biggrin
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