People that block overtakes.

People that block overtakes.

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dapearson

4,355 posts

225 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Harry Flashman said:
I had this recently - some fool attempted to block me, then accelerated (on a dual carriageway, mind! when I got past). Went past at at full chat - and then gradually slowed to 20mph. I was making no attempt to block him - simply crawling along to irritate him. He refused to overtake, simply going apoplectic with rage behind me. Sped up and disappeared when I saw traffic approach behind him.

Immature? Yes. Satisfying? Absolutely!
Immature? Yes. Dangerous? Yes. tt? Absolutely!

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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dapearson said:
Immature? Yes. Dangerous? Yes. tt? Absolutely!
Could you explain in what way this is dangerous? There was no brake testing involved, just a gradual slowing down so how would you envisage this causing death and destruction? Is slowing down as you approach an obstruction also dangerous?

Janesy B

2,625 posts

187 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
Could you explain in what way this is dangerous? There was no brake testing involved, just a gradual slowing down so how would you envisage this causing death and destruction?
Because it's the internet. You are either the worlds most safest driver ever or a dangerous blood thirsty lunatic. There's no middle ground, no shades of grey, just black and white.

dapearson

4,355 posts

225 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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The irony.

Replying to a thread about people getting in your way when you want to drive at YOUR pace, in some cases people blocking overtakes to force you to drive in their way.

All credibility lost by stating that you accelerated hard to get past and then slowed to 20mph in a deliberate attempt to block and annoy another road user.

BBS-LM

3,972 posts

225 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I had to deal with a moron in a red van about 2 years ago, coming off a roundabout going onto the motorway, the van was in front, so I thought let it get a good distance onto the motorway before I overtake, it was a quiet evening about 8pm in the summer, as I get up to speed I indicate to go into lane 1, then lane 2, before I know it, this idiot deliberately pulls into lane 2 and I have to slam on the ankers so I do not hit him. If it was not for the car having good brakes, it would have been an accident. wker.

Harry Flashman

19,384 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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dapearson said:
The irony.

Replying to a thread about people getting in your way when you want to drive at YOUR pace, in some cases people blocking overtakes to force you to drive in their way.

All credibility lost by stating that you accelerated hard to get past and then slowed to 20mph in a deliberate attempt to block and annoy another road user.
I never wanted credibility. Just revenge. WHich I got - and enjoyed! No apologies made whatsoever.

Hypocritical? Absolutely - I'll take that on the chin. Dangerous? Not sure I follow...

PS - who are you calling a tt, peasant? Hmph smile

Edited by Harry Flashman on Tuesday 30th July 09:34

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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dapearson said:
The irony.

Replying to a thread about people getting in your way when you want to drive at YOUR pace, in some cases people blocking overtakes to force you to drive in their way.

All credibility lost by stating that you accelerated hard to get past and then slowed to 20mph in a deliberate attempt to block and annoy another road user.
Don't try to change the subject, please answer the question. Since every single driver does it as a normal part of driving, why do you consider that slowing down gently is a dangerous maneuver?

Sherpa

81 posts

177 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Remember: don't overtake, it will cause you to crash!


GadgeS3C

4,516 posts

165 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Sherpa said:
Remember: don't overtake, it will cause you to crash!

Only if they can keep up wink

Cliftonite

8,412 posts

139 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Sherpa said:
Remember: don't overtake, it will cause you to crash!

Overtaking is frowned upon in Lincolnshire. It's not really allowed.

Someone I overtook recently (60 mph NSL) reported me to the police for "overtaking at speed"

eek


bodhi

10,551 posts

230 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Sherpa said:
Remember: don't overtake, it will cause you to crash!

I am at a loss. So the police are taking the line that overtaking is dangerous, even though it details in the Highway Code how to do it safely?

Can I have a new country please? This one appears to be broken.

FussyFez

972 posts

177 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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bodhi said:
Can I have a new country please? This one appears to be broken.
Have you only just noticed?

Also, can I share your new one please.

dapearson

4,355 posts

225 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
Don't try to change the subject, please answer the question. Since every single driver does it as a normal part of driving, why do you consider that slowing down gently is a dangerous maneuver?
Slowing down to 20 mph in front of another car on a dual carriageway. Damgerous IMO.

Are you seriously suggesting that that's not dangerous?

And WTF do you mean that "every driver does it as a normal part of driving"?!

Edited by dapearson on Tuesday 30th July 18:25

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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dapearson said:
Mr2Mike said:
Don't try to change the subject, please answer the question. Since every single driver does it as a normal part of driving, why do you consider that slowing down gently is a dangerous maneuver?
Slowing down to 20 mph in front of another car on a dual carriageway. Damgerous IMO.

Are you seriously suggesting that that's not dangerous?

And WTF do you mean that "every driver does it as a normal part of driving"?!

Edited by dapearson on Tuesday 30th July 18:25
Yes, seriously, it's not dangerous. I did the exact same thing today, and there was not a single scratch on a car, no injury to any person or animal. There was traffic ahead, so I had to slow down; the car behind me slowed down too.

That is what is meant by "a normal part of driving."

I'm not sure why it's a difficult concept to grasp.

dapearson

4,355 posts

225 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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xRIEx said:
Yes, seriously, it's not dangerous. I did the exact same thing today, and there was not a single scratch on a car, no injury to any person or animal. There was traffic ahead, so I had to slow down; the car behind me slowed down too.

That is what is meant by "a normal part of driving."

I'm not sure why it's a difficult concept to grasp.
Did you "go past at full chat" first before slowing down?!

Yes i do understand what you're all saying. Slowing down is a part of driving. FFS i'm not a child.

I still stand by what i said based on what was posted. Your example is different. I'm not sure why it's such a difficult concept to grasp.

Edited by dapearson on Tuesday 30th July 19:34

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
dapearson said:
Immature? Yes. Dangerous? Yes. tt? Absolutely!
Could you explain in what way this is dangerous? There was no brake testing involved, just a gradual slowing down so how would you envisage this causing death and destruction? Is slowing down as you approach an obstruction also dangerous?
It was him in the other car jester

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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When a puppy shats on your carpet, aren't you supposed to rub his nose in it.



New POD

3,851 posts

151 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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The world is full of tts. Go to the police. Insist on making a written statement. Wait 1 week send a recorded letter to Chief Constable and ask for an update to the case. At worst the police will eventually go and take a statement from the dhead, who might lie, or might drop himself in it. If he's married and it's his wife's car, he'll be in serious marital st.

I overtook someone between HULL and YORK on Saturday Morning. There was a queue of cars behind a very slow car, doing 35 in a 50 (A road had lots of speed cameras at the safest points to overtake - so do you wait until it's unsafe to overtake?)

I'd followed this lot (about 9 cars in total) for about a mile before I decided that as nobody would overtake, I'd overtake one car at a time, but the Freelander in front of me, deliberately tried to close the gap between him and the car in front. Rather than realise he was being overtaken and increase the gap.

As part of my pre overtake risk mitigation I had a back up plan or 2. I had plenty of time to either overtake another car, to brake and move back behind the freelander, or indicate left and move into the smaller gap. I chose to overtake the next car, as the road was both wide enough for 3 cars and the bend was far enough away to make it to the next gap.

Why do they do it? Well he didn't want to be traveling at 35 mph, but obviously thought it too dangerous to overtake. Well yes, with people like you around it is you tt. If it were too dangerous for him, he'd try and stop he, because clearly that would make the roads safer.

JagXJR

1,261 posts

130 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Panda P said:
Did they really pull out on purpose just to slow you down? Maybe they were just idiotic or misjudged your speed. This happens all the time, it's annoying but I just get on with it and let it go.
When someone moves over to slow you down for no reason it's kinda obvious! rolleyes

Panda P said:
It is you, Mr Porsche
How come you have quoted snippets making me sound like an idiot driver and completely ignored "Would quite happily sit behind them if doing a decent (ie the speed limit) rate of knots"?

If I want to drive at the speed limit why should another driver drive slower and impede my progress should I try to overtake? Who made them royalty?

Panda P said:
Why bother overtaking one car if you are going to get stuck behind larger traffic?
The whole point of overtaking is that you don't "get stuck behind larger traffic" rolleyes

"after I have done the overtake can I slow down enough for the road and traffic ahead. Huge powerful disc brakes certainly helped."

All this shows is that I am thinking about overtakes and completing them safely, not that I drive like the Porsche muppet in your example

Panda P said:
I share you sentiments and I am all for overtaking, just when it's safe to do so and you don't make yourself look like a n0b doing it.

Edited by Panda P on Monday 29th July 13:02
Doesn't sound like you do, at no point do I overtake if it is not safe to do so. A powerful car like the XJR allows 4 or 5 car overtakes whereas a less powerful one would have to do less in one go, increasing the chance of someone closing the gap with the car in front to stop you getting past.

Your tone sounds like you don't approve of others getting ahead of you, or do I have it wrong?

JagXJR

1,261 posts

130 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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I don't really have a problem with bikes moving to the front of queues if they don't impede my progress when they set off. Powerful bikes don't tend to but smaller ones do, setting off slower than I in front of me. When I rode small bikes as a learner I never used to block anyone's progress!

This applies to cars and bikes, why take the right hand lane or slot in front of me if you are going to go slower when we set off?

Just been up to the Yorkshire Dales and the standard of driving there astounded me. Cars slowing down and pulling in to let you past (in either direction), friendly waves as they do so. Having pulled in, sometimes found they did the same to let you past. Much nicer experience and actually enjoyed driving for a change!

Perhaps the pace of life dictates how people drive?