People that block overtakes.

[Art0ir]

Justin Cyder said:

His point may be correct according to the publication that still references 1980's technology for stopping distances but I'm chuckling at the internet hard man insult that I think Mr. big balls would probably wish to reconsider if he ever tried it on face to face.

I've withdrawn my previous comment in the interest of courtesy, not that I should mind given your attitude on the road.

[calibrax]

There's always the PIT manoeuvre...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g4CIYR7lIk

[Motorrad]

Even more annoying when it's on a motorway and you can't pull over to let the cocksocket get on with ruining someone else's day.

Riding on the M6 a couple of weeks ago I was cruising at 75ish came upon a red diesel golf doing 60ish in the lane 2, I overtook in lane 3 and pulled back in to lane 1. The driver then overtakes me doing about 90, cuts back in abruptly and slows to 65ish in lane 2. This leaves me no option than to overtake again- lane 1 to lane 3. This time as I come to pass he accelerates leaving me doing 75ish in lane 3 with nothing to overtake. He then slows back to 65 in lane 2.

What was this trying to achieve? I presume he was trying to provoke me into getting myself banned- bearing in mind he was driving a stty diesel dross mobile and I was on a so called 'hyper sports bike' capable of 170ish mph what else could have been the point? In the old days I'd have smashed the fkers wing mirror off and then fked off out of there at high speed but I guess I'm getting old and boring these days........the .

[JagXJR]

That's why I bought a fast car, was never a problem with 400 supercharged horses lol

Can't understand why they do it, nust have sad lives if that's how they need to get their jollies!

Edited by JagXJR on Thursday 25th July 15:51

[Justin Cyder]

Art0ir said:

I've withdrawn my previous comment in the interest of courtesy, not that I should mind given your attitude on the road.

So you're sorry apart from you're not sorry? Your very first interaction with someone you don't agree with is to call them a cretin, then to offer a mealy mouthed retraction.

Fair enough, that's you all worked out for future reference.

[TwistingMyMelon]

Ive had it a few times over 15 years , is most odd, especially when they are doing 40 in a 60 and it is a clear straight road with no turnings!

You also get the people who accelerate to try and stop you, even when I've easily had the power to still get past I have to think "do I want this idiot behind me"

I had to rush to hospital once due to my misses having a misscarrige and was driving Safely (IMO!) but briskly and the amount of cars that would get the hump that I was overtaking them or pulling away swiftly from the lights and trying to block progress when I was desperate to get to the hospital.

I had someone follow me home once which was odd, I was more worried that the guy would have a heart attack rather tan attack me!

I drive a bit slower now, due to travel sick dogs and kids, so I'm actively easing off and waving other cars past even if Im doing 60 in a 60

[Art0ir]

Justin Cyder said:

Art0ir said:

I've withdrawn my previous comment in the interest of courtesy, not that I should mind given your attitude on the road.

So you're sorry apart from you're not sorry? Your very first interaction with someone you don't agree with is to call them a cretin, then to offer a mealy mouthed retraction.

Fair enough, that's you all worked out for future reference.

Would you prefer I told you that you're in the right? That the second lane that cost £1000's to plan and lay and is specifically designed to reduce congestion, isn't allowed to be used by anyone as and when people like you decide? That the Highway Code is irrelevant because of the expansion of use of disk brakes in the past 30 years?

ETA: I withdraw the cretin comment, but not the absolute disdain for the self appointed knights of the road.

Edited by Art0ir on Thursday 25th July 12:56

[MarkRSi]

g3org3y said:

Benbay001 said:

DaveCWK said:

One of the reasons most of my overtakes feature the words 'surprise' and 'power'

Yep!
By the time they know im coming past, im already past!

Fast cars are safer. Fact.

Usually this (especially with a motorbike), although just this morning I found myself taking avoiding action rather than get sideswiped, even with 260bhp at my disposal.

Think I need 400+bhp, with straight pipes, just to be sure.

[Paul O]

panholio said:

Is the psychology something the do with "pushing in"

The British fetish for queuing?

Yep, it's this. some people are insane about keeping their place in an imaginery queue.

As well as the OP's overtaking blocker, immediately blocking a motorway lane that closes 2 miles ahead is another example, also not letting people "merge in turn", as well as speeding up to close a motorway gap just so prevent someone moving from lane 2 to 'their' lane 3.

Single lane roads are the answer to these problems. Yet, I can guarantee the first people to complain about the slow traffic that would create would be the same nutters who actually try to enforce these perceived 'queues'.

T'is a crazy world indeed.

[Justin Cyder]

Art0ir said:

Would you prefer I told you that you're in the right? That the second lane that cost £1000's to plan and lay and is specifically designed to reduce congestion, isn't allowed to be used by anyone as and when people like you decide? That the Highway Code is irrelevant because of the expansion of use of disk brakes in the past 30 years?

I'd prefer you to have behaved like a grown up in the first instance but it seems that was too much to ask. Perhaps you should have looked at Kermit Power's posts. He is capable of vehemently disagreeing without instantly descending into personal insults.

Here's some free advice - if your attitude on here extends to real life, you are in for a rough time. Take it or leave it, I don't mind either way.

[ManOpener]

Justin Cyder said:

...I think Mr. big balls would probably wish to reconsider if he ever tried it on face to face.

Do you behave like an obstinate, overly aggressive, hormonal teenager every time anyone suggests you are wrong, or is it juts on this issue in particular?

[Kermit power]

Justin Cyder said:

I can happily live with your irateness. Question is who's the bigger wker, the left hand lane driver who won't let anyone in or the guy in the right hand lane who leapfrogs fifty cars to save a couple of minutes & in the process perpetuates the queueing?

In my experience, the left hand lane drivers do let people merge all the way until it becomes clear some mouth breather is forcing their way through. It's the good old British sense of fair play at work.

The guys in the right hand lane are not leapfrogging fifty cars to save a couple of minutes, nor are they perpetuating queuing! They are simply using that piece of the road as it is supposed to be used!

The people perpetuating queuing are those in the left hand lane (especially where they cause the queue to extend back past other junctions by not using the right hand lane they're supposed to use) who refuse to let people in the right hand lane merge in turn (as they are supposed to) but above all by those idiots who deliberately straddle both lanes to stop others using them properly.

[Justin Cyder]

ManOpener said:

Do you behave like an obstinate, overly aggressive, hormonal teenager every time anyone suggests you are wrong, or is it juts on this issue in particular?

Nope, just when they issue an insult as an opener. HTH.

[Art0ir]

Justin Cyder said:

I'd prefer you to have behaved like a grown up in the first instance but it seems that was too much to ask. Perhaps you should have looked at Kermit Power's posts. He is capable of vehemently disagreeing without instantly descending into personal insults.

Here's some free advice - if your attitude on here extends to real life, you are in for a rough time. Take it or leave it, I don't mind either way.

Justin Cyder said:

Question is who's the bigger wker, the left hand lane driver who won't let anyone in or the guy in the right hand lane who leapfrogs fifty cars...

All terribly mature.

Do you ask people to "step outside" when they tell you you're wrong in real life?

[bodhi]

Justin Cyder said:

I can happily live with your irateness. Question is who's the bigger wker, the left hand lane driver who won't let anyone in or the guy in the right hand lane who leapfrogs fifty cars to save a couple of minutes & in the process perpetuates the queueing?

In my experience, the left hand lane drivers do let people merge all the way until it becomes clear some mouth breather is forcing their way through. It's the good old British sense of fair play at work.

And the good old British strategy of completely ignoring what's in the Highway Code.

I will admit I'm often the person in the right lane trying to merge - the council provided two lanes for us to use, so lets use them. I had one stupid old cretin trying to stop me from merging last Saturday coming out of Stafford - every time I inched forward with the traffic, he moved forward too. Eyes forward, no acknowledgement, just moving his car in a way that made it clear I wasn't getting in.

Thankfully, in front of him was an E39 I had let in previously round town, who saw what was going on, and very kindly let me in, 3 cars ahead of the doddering old fool I was waving a Highway Code at.

If you block traffic from merging you are making the congestion infinitely worse, and shouldn't really be allowed on the roads. Just let them in and let everyone get on with their days. Hardly rocket science.

[ManOpener]

Justin Cyder said:

ManOpener said:

Do you behave like an obstinate, overly aggressive, hormonal teenager every time anyone suggests you are wrong, or is it juts on this issue in particular?

Nope, just when they issue an insult as an opener. HTH.

Pretty sure it was a closer, but never mind. Perhaps if you were somewhat less aggressive and nonchalant in your support of factual inaccuracy people would be less inclined to be rude towards you?

[Justin Cyder]

I don't think I would take anyone calling me 'an absolute cretin' to my face lying down if that's what you mean. But to rebut your suggestion, no, I don't.

I'm simply suggesting your keyboard anonymity is lending you a degree of machismo that I very much doubt you possess in the flesh.

Anyway, now that we've established what you're all about Artoir, I must be on my merry way. Good luck with the anger problem.

[Apriliaer]

Justin Cyder said:

I don't think I would take anyone calling me 'an absolute cretin' to my face lying down if that's what you mean. But to rebut your suggestion, no, I don't.

I'm simply suggesting your keyboard anonymity is lending you a degree of machismo that I very much doubt you possess in the flesh.

Anyway, now that we've established what you're all about Artoir, I must be on my merry way. Good luck with the anger problem.

And we've established you're wrong.

The best shining example was some dick in a Avensis on the A33. As I come along a 3-lane road that merges into 2 - maybe 1 mile on, the lights are on red with maybe 8-9 cars, vans trucks in lane 1 and 2 - nothing in lane 3.

As you do, I assessed the lights would soon change, so rolled up to lane 3 in 2nd/3rd gear lights go green and I'm away. Or I would be but the plonker in his gopping golden Avensis, swerves right into my lane. I slam on thinking he may not have seen me to give him space. He moves back into his lane making no effort to speed up so I cautiously pass him - look over and see he's very irate and using a lot of sign language!

I accelerate past - nip in front of him (flashes obviously - I find just laughing at them gives the best reaction..) and pull into lane 1.

DICK! Especially as these people don't even have an intent of hitting the speed limit.

[Bennet]

Don't blame people for being defensive. Blame the tossers that have made them feel they need to react this way.

Drive down the right lane whenever it makes sense to. Just don't be at all pushy about who lets you in when you get to the pinch point. They don't know you aren't a prick.

[robinessex]

That's why i'm going to buy the new Veyron. 1500bhp should help me pass ok!!!