RE: Toyota GT86 vs Subaru BRZ: Blood Brothers
Discussion
I have always liked the Celica styling through its successive generations.
Regrettably, neither of these do anything for me. They are bland, derivative designs with no spark of originality and so fall down on the fact they just don't look "special" - I still prefer the looks of a Capri 2.8 TBH.
Regrettably, neither of these do anything for me. They are bland, derivative designs with no spark of originality and so fall down on the fact they just don't look "special" - I still prefer the looks of a Capri 2.8 TBH.
With so little difference between them, and no way that any small chassis difference would be noticeable to my amateur hands, I would take the Subaru on three counts - a) the name ('I drive a Toyota' vs 'I drive a Subaru') b) exclusivity c) aesthetics - I find the front of the BRZ just a bit more pleasing. Others will no doubt disagree.
The TRD pricing is terrifying - you cannot overlook the M135i at that point (yes I know...). Which worries me for the convertible version, as a drop-top one of these has to be right up there for affordable all-round awesomeness.
The TRD pricing is terrifying - you cannot overlook the M135i at that point (yes I know...). Which worries me for the convertible version, as a drop-top one of these has to be right up there for affordable all-round awesomeness.
WCZ said:
braddo said:
cheap
not that cheap!also have they really sold 83,000 of these? just needs more power IMO
The MX5 and a basic 1-series are probably the only cheaper (when inflation adjusted) RWD cars sold in the UK in the past, what, 20 years?
RX8, 200SX, S2000, 3-series coupe, Supra, Elise etc etc - all these cars and their ilk sold for more than what the GT86/BRZ currently does.
I drove a GT86, back to back with my E46 M3, E90 M3 and a new M135i........
GT86, is a VERY VERY good car. Just getting in and sitting there before even driving it felt right.
After driving all 4, what i wanted was the power of the M135i, the size and chassis and feel of the GT86........ it pretty much meant i was to keep my E46.
But i would have a VERY hard time trying to pick between an M135 and a GT86, they are a very good car.
I was not bothered about the lack of pace, its quick enough to be honest. Sometimes i think the E46 with its taller gears etc might be too fast for the road, top of 3rd afterall is 100mph, So alwasy spend most of my time in the middle of 3rd to be honest, never mind how fast the E90 is.
So yes i want one!
Not at that price premium though. Maybe in a few years when they come down in price. Unless they bring out a turbo version or something, then i would more than likely put my name down right away.
GT86, is a VERY VERY good car. Just getting in and sitting there before even driving it felt right.
After driving all 4, what i wanted was the power of the M135i, the size and chassis and feel of the GT86........ it pretty much meant i was to keep my E46.
But i would have a VERY hard time trying to pick between an M135 and a GT86, they are a very good car.
I was not bothered about the lack of pace, its quick enough to be honest. Sometimes i think the E46 with its taller gears etc might be too fast for the road, top of 3rd afterall is 100mph, So alwasy spend most of my time in the middle of 3rd to be honest, never mind how fast the E90 is.
So yes i want one!
Not at that price premium though. Maybe in a few years when they come down in price. Unless they bring out a turbo version or something, then i would more than likely put my name down right away.
RX7 said:
How curious that a car built in the same factory but badged differently can carry different warranties and one has "supply issues", seems Subaru have shot themselves in the foot with that one!
When the guys on Drive refer to it they default to the BRZ which makes me think US BRZ supplies are being prioritised while in Europe it is the reverse. Just a thought. Im in the process of negotiating a deal on a Red, manual, alcantara, satnav GT86. I got the car last week for a 5 hour test drive...gave it back after 2 hours and said ' lets talk numbers, no need to pitch to me!'.
The smile on the salesmans face was priceless!...he aint smiling now cos im not falling for any of the usual tricks!
I hope I can get it in my budget...Have been waiting for a long time for this one!
The smile on the salesmans face was priceless!...he aint smiling now cos im not falling for any of the usual tricks!
I hope I can get it in my budget...Have been waiting for a long time for this one!
bobbylondonuk said:
Im in the process of negotiating a deal on a Red, manual, alcantara, satnav GT86. I got the car last week for a 5 hour test drive...gave it back after 2 hours and said ' lets talk numbers, no need to pitch to me!'.
The smile on the salesmans face was priceless!...he aint smiling now cos im not falling for any of the usual tricks!
I hope I can get it in my budget...Have been waiting for a long time for this one!
I held out for minutes... click here. The smile on the salesmans face was priceless!...he aint smiling now cos im not falling for any of the usual tricks!
I hope I can get it in my budget...Have been waiting for a long time for this one!
LordGrover said:
bobbylondonuk said:
Im in the process of negotiating a deal on a Red, manual, alcantara, satnav GT86. I got the car last week for a 5 hour test drive...gave it back after 2 hours and said ' lets talk numbers, no need to pitch to me!'.
The smile on the salesmans face was priceless!...he aint smiling now cos im not falling for any of the usual tricks!
I hope I can get it in my budget...Have been waiting for a long time for this one!
I held out for minutes... click here. The smile on the salesmans face was priceless!...he aint smiling now cos im not falling for any of the usual tricks!
I hope I can get it in my budget...Have been waiting for a long time for this one!
LordGrover said:
Times is hard... the 'target demographic' aren't willing/able to spunk £25+k on an impractical 2+2 car, especially when most hot-hatches will out-drag it from the lights; that's why they are being bought by olde fartes like moi.
A flick through the classifieds will show, these will soon be well within the target demographic reach though. They are being hammered in the trade.7 month old well specced '86s (£28k new) with less than 5k on the clock are struggling to fetch £18k-19k.
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