RE: Toyota GT86 vs Subaru BRZ: Blood Brothers

RE: Toyota GT86 vs Subaru BRZ: Blood Brothers

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garypotter

1,534 posts

151 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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The toyota car shown at Goodwood FOS before the release was a much better looking car than the ones built. I heard rumours that the deal was toyota can sell something like 4 times the amount of Subaroos in the UK, I think I read it on the internet or the SUN newspaper so it must be true.


Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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It's a bigger ratio than that even IIRC.

Ved

3,825 posts

176 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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RX7 said:
How curious that a car built in the same factory but badged differently can carry different warranties and one has "supply issues", seems Subaru have shot themselves in the foot with that one!
There are no supply issues. There is purely the fact that Toyota stopped Subaru building any for any other market than the US for the last 10 months. Subaru did all the work, and were paid well for it, but had to take a back seat for the first few years to Toyota supply. This will change once the STI variants come in which have first dibs over the Toyota equivalent. Neither will be AWD, by the way.

Edited by Ved on Friday 2nd August 20:44

BILL PAYER

526 posts

180 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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Ive never seen a Subaru and maybe about half a dozen Toyotas so they are hardly a money maker for either company,its not like there is one parked in every street is it !

spameister

42 posts

147 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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While I'm not suggesting there was a significant objective improvement in the 0-60/62 time subjectively the engine felt like it spun much more freely after about 6000 kms.

greggy50

6,179 posts

192 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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drocter81 said:
A flick through the classifieds will show, these will soon be well within the target demographic reach though. They are being hammered in the trade.

7 month old well specced '86s (£28k new) with less than 5k on the clock are struggling to fetch £18k-19k.
Yes they were overpriced new imo and due to the fact they have not been too popular in the UK so far I think they will drop to around £12k at 3 years old...

nottyash

4,671 posts

196 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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These are under £22k brand new on Drive the deal now, not far off second hand values.
I would hate to of paid £25k for one, when the dealers were not budging on price. I think that's why not so many have sold.

CrowCrow00

4,105 posts

157 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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greggy50 said:
Yes they were overpriced new imo and due to the fact they have not been too popular in the UK so far I think they will drop to around £12k at 3 years old...
I'd gobble one up at that price.

BILL PAYER

526 posts

180 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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The fact that this thread is so quiet just tells me that the cars generate no interest.

otolith

56,424 posts

205 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Or everyone is bored stless with the opinions of those who don't get it.

GravelBen

15,726 posts

231 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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otolith said:
Or everyone is bored stless with the opinions of those who don't get it.
hehe

This, plus the fact that this article seems to be more about the price than how they drive.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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greggy50 said:
Yes they were overpriced new imo and due to the fact they have not been too popular in the UK so far I think they will drop to around £12k at 3 years old...
This is when I will buy one. Hopefully there will be a supercharger kit by then too.

bobbylondonuk

2,199 posts

191 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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12.5k Is what they are offering as get guaranteed future value on a pcp contract. And With Toyota offers going on at the moment, you can get a brand-new car with satnav And leather for under 25k with 5 year warranty. Or you could go and get yourself a heavy front wheel drive hatchback with lower warranty and a 20k price.

HaloGen8

1,413 posts

130 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Not a fan.
Better out there for the money.

LordGrover

33,552 posts

213 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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k-ink said:
This is when I will buy one. Hopefully there will be a supercharger kit by then too.
See here: click.

LordGrover

33,552 posts

213 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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HaloGen8 said:
Not a fan.
Better out there for the money.
New nimble RWD sports/coupe?
Care to name two?

NailedOn

3,115 posts

236 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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HaloGen8 said:
Not a fan.
Better out there for the money.
You are facing an unhappy future on PH if you are unwilling or unable to substantiate your posts.

CedricN

821 posts

146 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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I checked the detailed selling statistics from sweden. Jan to Jul 2013 resulted in 105 sold GT86/BRZ, which isn't that bad at all considered its pricing strategy here (its expensive, around 30k£+). To compare I give you some more numbers, Jan to Jul 2013: 911 105, Boxster 51, MX5 65, Nissan 370z 1, Cayman 27, Z4 30 etc...

Probably wont depreciate that quick, but as all other sports cars you can take the ferry over to the UK and buy them for peanuts after some years smile I find the huge depreciation in the UK very interesting, considering its a pretty similar market to rest of Europe, except for driving on the wrong side.

LordGrover

33,552 posts

213 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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CedricN said:
... except for driving on the wrong side.
grumpy

CedricN

821 posts

146 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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LordGrover said:
grumpy
Sorry, its just statistics:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32...

smile


Actually, we also drove on the right side up until the mid sixties here in Sweden (although still lhd cars). But some politicians were smart enough to change, even though it was chaos for some time smile