Variants on VAG 3.2L V6 engines?

[anarki]

I was following a Mk1 Audi TT 3.2 earlier and it surprised me how nice it sounded as well as went. In my hunt for a car last year, I was tempted to get a Golf R32 but I ended up with my S3 instead.

I had automatically assumed that both the TT and the R32 would have shared the same engine (as they do with a lot of VAG cars) however according to Wikipedia they have different displacements as well as different power and torque levels. Why would a mainstream car manufacturing group develop a set of engines to share among their cars but then develop separate engines on their "hot" cars when the stats are negligible? (on paper)

On a side note, I'm guessing they're geared differently to the likes of the 1.8 20V turbos such as my car, which seems like it needs a slighter longer 2nd gear in my opinion.

/Random Friday night musing.

[kambites]

I believe they're both variants of the VR6 block; just slightly different ones.

[zeduffman]

Annoyingly my Mk5 R32 is geared shorter than my Mk4 2.0 8v (which could hit 60 in second), which is made up for with a sixth gear. The ratios could really have done with being the other way round, the R32 runs out of puff in second far too quickly.

[0a]

In my experience the r32 sounds great (but is slow compared to modern 4 cylinder turbos) but the 3.2 tt I went in sounded rubbish- i don't know whether it sounded better outside but inside it felt like a fairly slow waste of time.

[dm46]

My v6 4motion has a very short 1st gear but after several mods drives far better than my friends r32. A milltek certainly improves the soundtrack as does a revo remap. a haldex upgrade, new arbs & lowered suspension are a must really.

[exgtt]

0a said:

In my experience the r32 sounds great (but is slow compared to modern 4 cylinder turbos) but the 3.2 tt I went in sounded rubbish- i don't know whether it sounded better outside but inside it felt like a fairly slow waste of time.

Got access to a TT v6 with a non resonated milltek, when the exhaust is cool it sounds too raspy. Once hot though its lovely. Nice car, but drinks fuel like buggery and is understeery. Has a big chunk of torque in the mid range that the top end can't outshine.

[anarki]

Another thing which springs to mind, why didn't Audi put in a V6 in an A3?

VW did it with the Golf, on the Mk3, Mk4 and Mk5 platform. Audi seemed to have stuck with 4 pot turbo's bar the RS3 which is a 5 pot turbo.

[kambites]

anarki said:

Another thing which springs to mind, why didn't Audi put in a V6 in an A3?

I thought they did?

[David87]

kambites said:

I thought they did?

They did.

[si_xsi]

erm Audi stuck a 3.2 in the A3 from around 2004 onwards.

[anarki]

I meant the Mk1 A3 sorry. That didn't receive the V6 engine whereas the Mk4 Golf did (same platform)

[Cupramax]

anarki said:

I meant the Mk1 A3 sorry. That didn't receive the V6 engine whereas the Mk4 Golf did (same platform)

Yes they did

[Podie]

My old man had a V6 A3, so they definitely existed.

Didn't the Beetle RSi have a 3.2 that was slightly different to the other VAG units?

[soad]

Podie said:

Didn't the Beetle RSi have a 3.2 that was slightly different to the other VAG units?

The exactly same engine was used in the Mk4 Golf R32, and was also introduced in the original Audi TT.

Isn't there a Phaeton VR6 3.2 too?

[160]

this will give you an idea of where the engine is used

[GC8]

Porsche Cayenne too, which seems to surprise many. That really is a VW.

[exgtt]

Crikey I assumed the cayenne had a boxster s engine lol.

[GC8]

Offset bore six, mis-marketed by VAG as a V6. Thw 'W' engine configuration winds me up more though because people swallow it without questioning it. Its a V with offset bores in both cyclinder banks ffs!

/anger

[aspirated]

You need to take a look at V6RUL's Mk1 TT 3.2 DSG Twin Turbo, crazy crazy car