F-Type residuals....
Discussion
Ozzie Osmond said:
The Jag coupe/convertible market has for years been primarily middle-aged gentlemen pottering to the golf club. So a boot that fits a set of golf clubs was all they needed to give the F-type and it's all they gave it.
Let's hope that the middle-aged gentleman don't want to take more than a pencil bag and that they won't be needing a driver or their trolley!Nohedes said:
Let's hope that the middle-aged gentleman don't want to take more than a pencil bag and that they won't be needing a driver or their trolley!
F-type only gets that daft spare wheel filling the boot if you pay extra for it. I don't think many owners will fancy struggling with a jack at the side of the road.I'm not even convinced a removed road wheel would fit in the boot.....
Edited by Ozzie Osmond on Sunday 11th August 12:22
My qualm on bringing the boot thing up is we're currently in the alps on a 2 week tour & it just couldn't happen in the F.
To me, this is what these cars are about, we left last Monday night on the overnight ferry, stopped off in Luxembourg for lunch before hitting Strasbourg for a couple of days. Then into lake Lucerne for some health club stuff & swimming in lakes!
Last night we arrived in Gstaad for a stop off at some place with Michelin stars & a bathroom toilet that washed your arse for you, on the way we did 5 passes & went above 7000 ft.
Now imagine having such a sublime car as the jag but only being able to take 2 squashy bags.
Sure the hotels can wash your stuff for you but you want the hassle of that?
The car fails at its reason de tâte!
We went & looked at one but the XK would have been much better at what we'd use it for, but then it's a big old lump. I simply can't think who they're aiming the car at & what they expect it to be used for?
Prior to this trip I looked at all kinds of things to buy to do it in, the only car I still think might have been better is the most unusual choice-the evora.
To me, this is what these cars are about, we left last Monday night on the overnight ferry, stopped off in Luxembourg for lunch before hitting Strasbourg for a couple of days. Then into lake Lucerne for some health club stuff & swimming in lakes!
Last night we arrived in Gstaad for a stop off at some place with Michelin stars & a bathroom toilet that washed your arse for you, on the way we did 5 passes & went above 7000 ft.
Now imagine having such a sublime car as the jag but only being able to take 2 squashy bags.
Sure the hotels can wash your stuff for you but you want the hassle of that?
The car fails at its reason de tâte!
We went & looked at one but the XK would have been much better at what we'd use it for, but then it's a big old lump. I simply can't think who they're aiming the car at & what they expect it to be used for?
Prior to this trip I looked at all kinds of things to buy to do it in, the only car I still think might have been better is the most unusual choice-the evora.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
My qualm on bringing the boot thing up is we're currently in the alps on a 2 week tour & it just couldn't happen in the F.
To me, this is what these cars are about, we left last Monday night on the overnight ferry, stopped off in Luxembourg for lunch before hitting Strasbourg for a couple of days. Then into lake Lucerne for some health club stuff & swimming in lakes!
Last night we arrived in Gstaad for a stop off at some place with Michelin stars & a bathroom toilet that washed your arse for you, on the way we did 5 passes & went above 7000 ft.
Now imagine having such a sublime car as the jag but only being able to take 2 squashy bags.
Sure the hotels can wash your stuff for you but you want the hassle of that?
The car fails at its reason de tâte!
We went & looked at one but the XK would have been much better at what we'd use it for, but then it's a big old lump. I simply can't think who they're aiming the car at & what they expect it to be used for?
Prior to this trip I looked at all kinds of things to buy to do it in, the only car I still think might have been better is the most unusual choice-the evora.
I did a week tour of Europe on a motorbike with a tank bag. Could easily have made it two. We go away these days with Cary on luggage.To me, this is what these cars are about, we left last Monday night on the overnight ferry, stopped off in Luxembourg for lunch before hitting Strasbourg for a couple of days. Then into lake Lucerne for some health club stuff & swimming in lakes!
Last night we arrived in Gstaad for a stop off at some place with Michelin stars & a bathroom toilet that washed your arse for you, on the way we did 5 passes & went above 7000 ft.
Now imagine having such a sublime car as the jag but only being able to take 2 squashy bags.
Sure the hotels can wash your stuff for you but you want the hassle of that?
The car fails at its reason de tâte!
We went & looked at one but the XK would have been much better at what we'd use it for, but then it's a big old lump. I simply can't think who they're aiming the car at & what they expect it to be used for?
Prior to this trip I looked at all kinds of things to buy to do it in, the only car I still think might have been better is the most unusual choice-the evora.
Can you fit two plane cabin allowance size bags in there? I rather suspect you can plus some squashy bags. 44litres I believe is cabin luggage allowance.
Plus how many people go on European trips in their cars? I suspect not that many.
But yes if it's not the car for you because of it there must be something other to choose personally I would take the looks of the f type every time over a bigger boot.
Jessicus said:
Just checked. Jag boot without spare wheel (puncture repair kit which are useless if you get a flat at speed) 196 litres.
Boxster with spare wheel (space saver but still better) 280 litres
That's a heck of a difference!
But ones a great car, the other is a cheap Porsche...so if you're only worried about boot space, get a pickup truck.Boxster with spare wheel (space saver but still better) 280 litres
That's a heck of a difference!
Regiment said:
Jessicus said:
Just checked. Jag boot without spare wheel (puncture repair kit which are useless if you get a flat at speed) 196 litres.
Boxster with spare wheel (space saver but still better) 280 litres
That's a heck of a difference!
But ones a great car, the other is a cheap Porsche...so if you're only worried about boot space, get a pickup truck.Boxster with spare wheel (space saver but still better) 280 litres
That's a heck of a difference!
ogrimwood said:
tony wright said:
I reckon they will hold 90% of there original value including extras, especially the Firesand Orange (fantastic colour when seen in the flesh on a nice sunny day) or at least I hope so
Great car to drive and brings a smile to your face every time. I bought mine to replace my Caterham so practicality is certainly not an issue and presently still enjoying it just as much.
As much as I commend you for buying the Jag over a top spec Merc, Audi or BMW, I feel 90% over 3 years is a bit ambitious. Even colour and spec won't save you, take a look at a Jaguar XKRS. Cracking motor, horrific residuals! Great car to drive and brings a smile to your face every time. I bought mine to replace my Caterham so practicality is certainly not an issue and presently still enjoying it just as much.
Been away with the Missus for a week with no luggage problems at all. I agree the boot is small but still quite functional without the stupid optional spare. They really are a great car and I've done the Merc SLK AMG thing and personally there is no comparison.
tony wright said:
I've done the Merc SLK AMG thing and personally there is no comparison.
Agreed. IMO previous Jag coupes have been targeting the same GT market as Merc but this F-type leans more in the direction of "sports" whilst retaining sufficient civility not to scare customers.Pesty said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
My qualm on bringing the boot thing up is we're currently in the alps on a 2 week tour & it just couldn't happen in the F.
To me, this is what these cars are about, we left last Monday night on the overnight ferry, stopped off in Luxembourg for lunch before hitting Strasbourg for a couple of days. Then into lake Lucerne for some health club stuff & swimming in lakes!
Last night we arrived in Gstaad for a stop off at some place with Michelin stars & a bathroom toilet that washed your arse for you, on the way we did 5 passes & went above 7000 ft.
Now imagine having such a sublime car as the jag but only being able to take 2 squashy bags.
Sure the hotels can wash your stuff for you but you want the hassle of that?
The car fails at its reason de tâte!
We went & looked at one but the XK would have been much better at what we'd use it for, but then it's a big old lump. I simply can't think who they're aiming the car at & what they expect it to be used for?
Prior to this trip I looked at all kinds of things to buy to do it in, the only car I still think might have been better is the most unusual choice-the evora.
I did a week tour of Europe on a motorbike with a tank bag. Could easily have made it two. We go away these days with Cary on luggage.To me, this is what these cars are about, we left last Monday night on the overnight ferry, stopped off in Luxembourg for lunch before hitting Strasbourg for a couple of days. Then into lake Lucerne for some health club stuff & swimming in lakes!
Last night we arrived in Gstaad for a stop off at some place with Michelin stars & a bathroom toilet that washed your arse for you, on the way we did 5 passes & went above 7000 ft.
Now imagine having such a sublime car as the jag but only being able to take 2 squashy bags.
Sure the hotels can wash your stuff for you but you want the hassle of that?
The car fails at its reason de tâte!
We went & looked at one but the XK would have been much better at what we'd use it for, but then it's a big old lump. I simply can't think who they're aiming the car at & what they expect it to be used for?
Prior to this trip I looked at all kinds of things to buy to do it in, the only car I still think might have been better is the most unusual choice-the evora.
Can you fit two plane cabin allowance size bags in there? I rather suspect you can plus some squashy bags. 44litres I believe is cabin luggage allowance.
Plus how many people go on European trips in their cars? I suspect not that many.
But yes if it's not the car for you because of it there must be something other to choose personally I would take the looks of the f type every time over a bigger boot.
I do agree about doing the week away on the bike though, I really wouldn't need any more than a large rucksack but for a couple going out to glamorous places you just couldn't do it in the f type-we looked at it & laughed!
I can't imagine the golf club set that this car no doubt panders to fancy doing a weekend up at gleneagles with the clubs, a change of clothes & room for a nice dress & bag for the misses being too impressed when they have to take the daily hack instead of the weekend toy they planned
I'm planning on putting away £500.00 a month for my F-Type over the next 4 years (into an account my wife knows nothing about) = 24K + interest, so that'll be 24K then! The problem is, it's got loads of stuff I just don't want - electric/electronic gadgetry that I don't understand and never use, panoramic roof, and on and on. Why can't they make a stripped out model for poor simple folk like me - it'd save loads of weight and cut the potential for expensive bills and I won't have to figure out how the ******* aircon works!
Are they selling many F-types? If not, residuals will remain high - like Evora.
My suspicion is that F-type is too "hardcore" for its intended market - the middle aged gentleman at the golf club. Especially with a firm ride and UK's third world road maintenance.
Another question is how the various models will fare relative to each other. Motoring press seems to think the V6 S is pick of the bunch.
My suspicion is that F-type is too "hardcore" for its intended market - the middle aged gentleman at the golf club. Especially with a firm ride and UK's third world road maintenance.
Another question is how the various models will fare relative to each other. Motoring press seems to think the V6 S is pick of the bunch.
Cheapest V6s is 43k with 33k miles on ph classifieds
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
2013 car too might be a long while before they get to 25k
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
2013 car too might be a long while before they get to 25k
Edited by Pesty on Saturday 30th April 06:09
Thinkbluesky said:
I'm planning on putting away £500.00 a month for my F-Type over the next 4 years (into an account my wife knows nothing about) = 24K + interest, so that'll be 24K then! The problem is, it's got loads of stuff I just don't want - electric/electronic gadgetry that I don't understand and never use, panoramic roof, and on and on. Why can't they make a stripped out model for poor simple folk like me - it'd save loads of weight and cut the potential for expensive bills and I won't have to figure out how the ******* aircon works!
Sounds you really need a TVR in your life. Proper back to basics car. Thinkbluesky said:
Why can't they make a stripped out model for poor simple folk like me - it'd save loads of weight and cut the potential for expensive bills!
Presumably because the retail price would only reduce from £60k to £55k and nobody wants to buy a £55k new F-type without the features available on every car costing only half that price.If you want a relatively light car then the base model Porsches are a lot lighter than their "loaded" equivalents - yet what you hear mostly is, "It's a rip-off, Porsche charge extra for things which come standard on a £25k car!".
Or to put it another way, you can't win.
Pesty said:
Cheapest V6s is 43k with 33k miles on ph classifieds
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
2013 car too might be a long while before they get to 25k
So much for the comment 2 years ago that they would be low 20s by Xmas 2015http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
2013 car too might be a long while before they get to 25k
Edited by Pesty on Saturday 30th April 06:09
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