Are mark 1's always the best ones?
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Often producing a car is the ultimate customer clinic, and engineers' dreams of a good driver's car morph into what the majority of mainstream buyers want (a dull polished car to drive to work in that doesn't look like an Audi, but is one in every other sense!)which is the effect the OP describes. Many cars have actually got quantifiably better, although strangely the mk1s are often referred to as better, for example the Elise and some may say the 911 as well.
Great topic OP.
Going against the norm...
The performance C Class Mercedes have improved overtime massively.
Focus Mk2 RS500 are considered better than the original Focus RS, even though i would actually prefer a MK1.
Lotus Esprit, has improved overtime in terms of driveablity, but that beautiful styling was disolved.
I think that MK1's will be always held in higher regard, because they often break a certain mould...
Going against the norm...
The performance C Class Mercedes have improved overtime massively.
Focus Mk2 RS500 are considered better than the original Focus RS, even though i would actually prefer a MK1.
Lotus Esprit, has improved overtime in terms of driveablity, but that beautiful styling was disolved.
I think that MK1's will be always held in higher regard, because they often break a certain mould...
iva cosworth said:
V8RX7 said:
Personally I prefer:
MK1 & 2 Escort are a tie
... I was mulling over Fords and decided the MK 1 escort is less boxy MK1 & 2 Escort are a tie
I used to want a MK II X Pack, so bad! Just had a quick Google, and RS versions looked even better!
Jaaack said:
EK9 Civic Type-R was the best. (I know its technically a MK6 but it was the first CTR.)
A mate of mine had an '85 Civic Si (Mk3 I guess), the JDM pre-VTEC 1.6 DOHC predecessor. It was really surprisingly quick - we never figured out how standard the engine was or wasn't though, it had a few interesting stickers in the engine bay, a slightly lumpy idle and happily screamed past 8000rpm.Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 18th August 02:37
RobM77 said:
Often producing a car is the ultimate customer clinic, and engineers' dreams of a good driver's car morph into what the majority of mainstream buyers want (a dull polished car to drive to work in that doesn't look like an Audi, but is one in every other sense!)which is the effect the OP describes. Many cars have actually got quantifiably better, although strangely the mk1s are often referred to as better, for example the Elise and some may say the 911 as well.
A better car doesn't necessarily make for a more fun or entertaining car. Elise is the perfect example, and I have a couple of friends who have gone from newer Elises/Exiges to S1s because they found the older models more fun to drive. I agree with them. Many won't, for a number of different reasons. Horses for courses and all that!
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