Just awesome vehicle-related images.

[Lost soul]

james_tigerwoods said:

Asterix said:

That's very cool

I do wonder where the shell ended up though

I was thinking the exact same thing

[IroningMan]

yellowjack said:

76mm? Scorpion?

Didn't they ditch Scorpion because of fume extraction issues?

My only experience with gunnery was at Lulworth with a Centurion 165mm AVRE, and even then, I was only observing from the driving seat of a 432. The 'flying dustbin' HESH round also took it's time getting to the target. I didn't get posted to 32 Engr Regt in the end, so never got to play with Centurion 105/165 at all. I ended up with a Chieftain-only unit. I qualified as a Giant Viper/Python instructor to make up for it

Regarding the Germans at Castlemartin, my dad got me one of these...


...which were given as presentation pieces when the Germans packed up and left. (Mine is a 'second', with a thumbprint on the '1961'. I've no idea how dad came by it, by it's a nice thing to have, having worked down there).

Yes, Scorpion. Heavy armoured regiment Recce Troops had Scorpion, light recce armoured regiments had Scimitar; I'm sure there was a tactical reason for it but I don't remember what it was - quite possibly as a result of heavy metal poisoning from firing 76mm with poor fume extraction...but as a heavy armour Gunnery Officer I had to deal with 120 and 76. They withdrew Scorpion because of the fume issue not long after I did my RGO course, it having been SOP never to fire closed-down for a while beforehand.

Nice mug!

[static2010]

Mashedpotatoes said:

Tornadoes and red stars? What's that all about.

First ever tornado with twin tails too!

[ManOpener]

static2010 said:

Mashedpotatoes said:

Tornadoes and red stars? What's that all about.

First ever tornado with twin tails too!

And sans swing-wings!

[leafspring]

ManOpener said:

static2010 said:

Mashedpotatoes said:

Tornadoes and red stars? What's that all about.

First ever tornado with twin tails too!

And sans swing-wings!

Mig 31 Foxhound... Russian Interceptor.

Really, really fking quick in a straight line... turning circle of the Titanic.

[jebus]

are these not the ones designed to go after high altitude bombers and can do mach 3?

[leafspring]

not sure about Mach 3 though...

[havoc]

leafspring said:

not sure about Mach 3 though...

Thereabouts. MiG-25s could hit that, the -31 is effectively an evolution.

[ManOpener]

havoc said:

leafspring said:

not sure about Mach 3 though...

Thereabouts. MiG-25s could hit that, the -31 is effectively an evolution.

The 25 was operationally limited to Mach 2.8 AFAIK. It could theoretically exceed it (Mach 3.1 recorded if my memory serves me right) but doing so would run the risk of seriously damaging the low-pressure compressor turbines and therefore it was only really done to one-up the Americans in air-breathing-turbofan-powered-interceptor-performance stakes.

Think the 31 had a flat limit of 2.8. These days not sure it's operated as an interceptor still but fairly sure they're still used for reconnaissance.

Edited by ManOpener on Friday 4th July 23:05

[Coatesy351]

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=22&...

[havoc]

Nice find.

Looking at all the right angles those things must have a radar signature second only to the B52!

[feef]

Some gratuitous self pimping in this thread. 140kg, 600cc rally bikes weren't really designed for MX tracks.

[Tango13]

ManOpener said:

havoc said:

leafspring said:

not sure about Mach 3 though...

Thereabouts. MiG-25s could hit that, the -31 is effectively an evolution.

The 25 was operationally limited to Mach 2.8 AFAIK. It could theoretically exceed it (Mach 3.1 recorded if my memory serves me right) but doing so would run the risk of seriously damaging the low-pressure compressor turbines and therefore it was only really done to one-up the Americans in air-breathing-turbofan-powered-interceptor-performance stakes.

Think the 31 had a flat limit of 2.8. These days not sure it's operated as an interceptor still but fairly sure they're still used for reconnaissance.

Edited by ManOpener on Friday 4th July 23:05

I've also read that a Mig 25 was tracked on radar at Mach 3.1 out in the Middle East somewhere but the engines were little more than scrap metal after.

[ManOpener]

Tango13 said:

ManOpener said:

havoc said:

leafspring said:

not sure about Mach 3 though...

Thereabouts. MiG-25s could hit that, the -31 is effectively an evolution.

The 25 was operationally limited to Mach 2.8 AFAIK. It could theoretically exceed it (Mach 3.1 recorded if my memory serves me right) but doing so would run the risk of seriously damaging the low-pressure compressor turbines and therefore it was only really done to one-up the Americans in air-breathing-turbofan-powered-interceptor-performance stakes.

Think the 31 had a flat limit of 2.8. These days not sure it's operated as an interceptor still but fairly sure they're still used for reconnaissance.

Edited by ManOpener on Friday 4th July 23:05

I've also read that a Mig 25 was tracked on radar at Mach 3.1 out in the Middle East somewhere but the engines were little more than scrap metal after.

Iran-Iraq or Gulf I think. Possibly a bit of both. Iraqi MiG-25s had quite a high attrition rate against Iranian F-14's so the usual response to US-operated F-14's in Iraq during the Gulf War was basically disengage and get out as fast as possible. Apparently one of the reasons Tomcats had such a low kill ratio during Iraq.

[leafspring]

ManOpener said:

Tango13 said:

ManOpener said:

havoc said:

leafspring said:

not sure about Mach 3 though...

Thereabouts. MiG-25s could hit that, the -31 is effectively an evolution.

The 25 was operationally limited to Mach 2.8 AFAIK. It could theoretically exceed it (Mach 3.1 recorded if my memory serves me right) but doing so would run the risk of seriously damaging the low-pressure compressor turbines and therefore it was only really done to one-up the Americans in air-breathing-turbofan-powered-interceptor-performance stakes.

Think the 31 had a flat limit of 2.8. These days not sure it's operated as an interceptor still but fairly sure they're still used for reconnaissance.

Edited by ManOpener on Friday 4th July 23:05

I've also read that a Mig 25 was tracked on radar at Mach 3.1 out in the Middle East somewhere but the engines were little more than scrap metal after.

Iran-Iraq or Gulf I think. Possibly a bit of both. Iraqi MiG-25s had quite a high attrition rate against Iranian F-14's so the usual response to US-operated F-14's in Iraq during the Gulf War was basically disengage and get out as fast as possible. Apparently one of the reasons Tomcats had such a low kill ratio during Iraq.

Hmmmm F14 Tomcat





Shame the anti radar paint makes them look permanently scruffy

[static2010]

Israeli pilot broke one on a training exercise & still landed it!

[Oilchange]

nerd hat on

F15 Eagle not F14 Tomcat...

nerd hat off

Edited by Oilchange on Sunday 6th July 15:46

[nicanary]

static2010 said:

Israeli pilot broke one on a training exercise & still landed it!

Now THAT'S a circumcision!

[Tango13]

ManOpener said:

Iran-Iraq or Gulf I think. Possibly a bit of both. Iraqi MiG-25s had quite a high attrition rate against Iranian F-14's so the usual response to US-operated F-14's in Iraq during the Gulf War was basically disengage and get out as fast as possible. Apparently one of the reasons Tomcats had such a low kill ratio during Iraq.

It was a Mig 25R, I had a rummage through my book collection and it was mentioned in here,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sky-Spies-Decades-Airborne...

[PomBstard]

A bit confusing for the kids...