RE: Jaguar XJR: Review

[kambites]

Amirhussain said:

E31Shrew said:

and for nigh on £100,000!

And people were laughing when BMW priced the M6 at around £100,000

The M6 is a class below. BMW don't make a direct competitor but the Merc S63 is about £30k more.

[E38Ross]

kambites said:

Amirhussain said:

E31Shrew said:

and for nigh on £100,000!

And people were laughing when BMW priced the M6 at around £100,000

The M6 is a class below. BMW don't make a direct competitor but the Merc S63 is about £30k more.

Is the 760li not a competitor in many respects?

[kambites]

E38Ross said:

Is the 760li not a competitor in many respects?

I'd say "no" because it's not really marketed as a "sporty" version, just a fast one. Hence it lacks all the various chassis "improvements" that things like AMGs, Ms etc. tend to get. I'd imagine the BMW is rather more relaxed in the way it goes about things.

[MycroftWard]

Liquid Knight said:

Had a go in an XJS 3.6 manual and loved the old girl. Shame only the TWR V12 had three pedals.

Great cars. Yes, a shame they didn't put the Getrag 290 5 speed in the later V12's.

The X300 XJ was the last Jaguar model to have a manual 'box option of course, the X300 XJR manual is becoming quite a valued classic now. I'd love one, proper driving machine!

[toppstuff]

MycroftWard said:

Liquid Knight said:

Had a go in an XJS 3.6 manual and loved the old girl. Shame only the TWR V12 had three pedals.

Great cars. Yes, a shame they didn't put the Getrag 290 5 speed in the later V12's.

The X300 XJ was the last Jaguar model to have a manual 'box option of course, the X300 XJR manual is becoming quite a valued classic now. I'd love one, proper driving machine!

There is a growing scene where people have been putting a Tremac 6 speed manual box in a V12 XJS. There is a kit from the US with everything you need for about £3k.

A 6 speed manual XJS V12 would be a lovely thing.

[Twoshoe]

Liquid Knight said:

Shame only the TWR V12 had three pedals.

Not quite true actually. When launched, the XJS was available as a manual.

[AmitG]

toppstuff said:

There is a growing scene where people have been putting a Tremac 6 speed manual box in a V12 XJS. There is a kit from the US with everything you need for about £3k.

A 6 speed manual XJS V12 would be a lovely thing.

I believe that there is also a kit to convert the previous-gen XK to a manual gearbox. In fact I think that someone on this forum is involved (NormanD?)

[TheRoadWarrior]

JaguarsportXJR said:

TheRoadWarrior said:

What's with the random bolding in these articles?

You mean the links to other pages?

Hurmm, this is strange.. I'm on another PC now and the text is all normal. On the other machine almost every other paragraph changes between normal and bold font, weird.

Carry on, nothing to see here!

[MycroftWard]

toppstuff said:

There is a growing scene where people have been putting a Tremac 6 speed manual box in a V12 XJS. There is a kit from the US with everything you need for about £3k.

A 6 speed manual XJS V12 would be a lovely thing.

I hadn't come across that, doesn't sound a bad idea at all. Would be a lovely motor to own and drive for sure.

Twoshoe said:

When launched, the XJS was available as a manual.

Yes, they had a 4 speed manual option with the early pre-HE V12's, rare now.

[Debaser]

22rgt B Squadron said:

Pretty awful looking thing and with those ridiculously low profile 30 series tyres its not going to be pleasant riding in it for any period of time. Have the 265mm width with a more sensible 45 or 50 profile and the as described jittery ride would be gone..

Low profile tyres don't equal poor ride, despite what car magazines tell you.

[MycroftWard]

Debaser said:

Low profile tyres don't equal poor ride, despite what car magazines tell you.

They are detrimental to the ride, other things being equal.

[rb26]

Stunning, I'll definitely be getting one..... in about 10 years

[Carnnoisseur]

[quote=Prof Prolapse]fking red?

Agreed, doesn't do it any justice.

£100k though?

[cathalm]

Wadeski said:

These halo jags are just to help brush off the "Jags are for old boys" image. Even the original XJR was never taken seriously as an M5 rival outside of the fawning UK press. And these big, thirsty cars need to be competitive in the USA where people still buy big, thirsty cars. You even see young people in 7ers and S-classes....

My guess is that is because every car enthusiast who has eyeballs and isn't clinically dead knows that the XJ is a 7 series rival and comparisons to a 5 series would be stupid. Of course with the importance you give to being taken seriously, you knew this and were joking right? I mean otherwise you'd be advertising that you don't know your subject and should be commenting on mumsnet instead...

[Triple7]

Krikkit said:

Looks great, but I can't help thinking the Jaguar engineers have lost their way - what happened to ride quality? This, the XFR-S and the F-type have all been criticised for their ride quality...

Think the same. Jag are so eager to get this 'bling' out, they are going all 'Audi'......never thought I'd say it but I'm going off Jags.

The CX-75 is the only car that gets it right from all perspectives, but that's been 'suspended'....

[SPORTO]

NEVER A GOOD LOOK....................

YESTERDAY....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Us-FwxqLCE

[NGK210]

Carnnoisseur said:

...

£100k though?

Which makes it a bit of bargain, compared to an AMG S63:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mercede...

[Wadeski]

cathalm said:

Wadeski said:

These halo jags are just to help brush off the "Jags are for old boys" image. Even the original XJR was never taken seriously as an M5 rival outside of the fawning UK press. And these big, thirsty cars need to be competitive in the USA where people still buy big, thirsty cars. You even see young people in 7ers and S-classes....

My guess is that is because every car enthusiast who has eyeballs and isn't clinically dead knows that the XJ is a 7 series rival and comparisons to a 5 series would be stupid. Of course with the importance you give to being taken seriously, you knew this and were joking right? I mean otherwise you'd be advertising that you don't know your subject and should be commenting on mumsnet instead...

Have you been on the lunchtime beers old chap?

[Bob_Defly]

TimS2000 said:

Shirley the XFR is the M5 rival not this? XJ is more 7-series size?

What he said, it's an M7 rival, so it wins!

[freixo67]

True competitor Alpina B7!!!