My car broke down within 5 days of purchasing.. NIGHTMARE

My car broke down within 5 days of purchasing.. NIGHTMARE

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LH1

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19 posts

151 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Hey guys,

Thought I would share my stories with you and may be get some legal advise.

So I bought this BMW 5 series, 530d, 2004, E60 car from a dealer on friday 16th of august. That car did about 95000 miles, seemed fine.

I bought the car and on the way home the engine light came on, saying the oil pressure is too low, called the dealer he said to go home and check the engine oil. So went home called RAC, they confirmed that the engine oil was low so they topped it up.

Then, the DRIVERS AIRBAG IS FAULTY sign came up, also it was showing that the HEAD UNIT IS NOT CODED CORRECTLY on the dash board..Also, after close inspection, I realised that the cd's volume button doesn't work.

Any way, I told the dealer about it, he said the airbags wire is loose so to bring it back to him and he will fix it, also, when I was buying, one of the side mirror was not working, he said he will fix the motor as it might need new motor, so I called him today he told me to bring the car back on monday.

Now, THE NIGHTMARE TONIGHT, I was driving that car to see a friend and all of a sudden on a dual carriage way the car just stops, yeah all the warning signs came on and it stopped... I was in the middle of dual carriage way and put the hazard lights on and it wouldn't turn on either!!!

Yeah, my life did flash in front of me for a while, any way, the police came they towed the car away then RAC came and told me that the battery is totally gone, it needed a new battery.

Mind you, the car stopped near the dealer, but it was around 10pm, so rac towed the car and I left the car out side the dealers place now. Called the dealer but they wouldn't answer after 11pm.

Now, what options do I have? Can I ask for a full refund? I really don't trust them to repair the car. Am I covered under the trading standard law as its not even been 7 days since I bought it and if I go to court then can I get the full refund of the money? I got police and RAC as witness of these incidents.

Seriously, my hands are still shaking, just got home on a cab, paid about £40 cab fare.. Not really happy you know..

LH

BHML

307 posts

171 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Sorry to hear about your misadventure.

Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong but I think you are supposed to allow the garage to remedy the faults in a satisfactory way and only if they don't do it can you consider rejecting the car. Also the car is essentially 9 years old so the level of consumer protection may not be that of a brand new car.

Hope you get it sorted...

LH1

Original Poster:

19 posts

151 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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My only concern is, they might do a silly repair and after about a month I will have problems again....

RAC said if they get a new battery then the problem should be gone (well it won't stop all of a sudden) and it will need full system reset again.


paulrussell

2,113 posts

162 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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The law says you have to give them a chance to repair the car, but it might be worthwhile asking the dealer if you can reject it there and then. If he says no then you have no choice but, to give him a chance you repair the car.

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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it may be a deadish battery causing all of the electrics to go mental

Burrito

1,705 posts

221 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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jamoor said:
it may be a deadish battery causing all of the electrics to go mental
My wife's old 206 had all sorts of electrical gremlins, which initially we put down to be an old, French car. As soon as the battery was replaced the problems ceased.

Give the dealer a chance to rectify the problems, it sounds like they've been open to fixing them so far.

FatChops

180 posts

157 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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I found this information on a recall. It seems to cover every problem you're having. Maybe yours hasn't had it done?

Low power from the battery caused by a poor connection (rectified by the battery cable recall) leads to false readings on the instrument panel, from: Warning AutoTransmission failure, to almost every other bogus message, including reversing light failure. Could also cause the engine to cut out. This should be rectified by the recall work, but the fault readings in the ECU also need to be cleared.

Fast Bug

11,720 posts

162 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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You had to ring the RAC to check the oil level?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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And you expected a dealer to be working and answering the phone at 23:00?!!!


Patrick1964

698 posts

232 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Fast Bug said:
You had to ring the RAC to check the oil level?
this ^^

OP it seems you may not be the most mechanically adept ? Nothing wrong with that, we all have our strengths, but maybe an old car is not for you. Leasing can be pretty cheap these days, and a new car comes with a warranty and piece of mind. OK, there's a cost, but if you don't need a big car maybe this would be a better option for you ? That, or a basic car maintenance course at your local college.

Good luck.

elephantstone

2,176 posts

158 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Patrick1964 said:
this ^^

OP it seems you may not be the most mechanically adept ? Nothing wrong with that, we all have our strengths, but maybe an old car is not for you. Leasing can be pretty cheap these days, and a new car comes with a warranty and piece of mind. OK, there's a cost, but if you don't need a big car maybe this would be a better option for you ? That, or a basic car maintenance course at your local college.

Good luck.
+1

Timbola

1,956 posts

141 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Fast Bug said:
You had to ring the RAC to check the oil level?
The E60 doesn't have an oil level dipstick, so you can't check it.

If engine oil is at or nearing the minimum level, there's a warning light on the dash which lights up telling you so.

Since the OP did say that that exact light lit up, it should have been fairly obvious I'd say, but being new to E60s, he may not know what the light was indicating.

Regardless, it's something a lot of E60 owners complaing about. It's a pain in the bum not being able to check your oil level, and only being told when it's getting low.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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I recently bought a 1998 3 series. It wouldn't start about as month after I bought it. So I used my jump pack (always kept in a new car until I start to trust it) to start it and went to buy a new battery.

Was I supposed to make the dealer do this? I sort of assumed that was one of the risks of buying an old car.

Output Flange

16,802 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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I'd put money on the RAC chap being correct, and the dying battery being the cause of all of these issues.

It's a pretty common thing to happen on them.

surveyor

17,846 posts

185 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Output Flange said:
I'd put money on the RAC chap being correct, and the dying battery being the cause of all of these issues.

It's a pretty common thing to happen on them.
+2 Modern cars rely a lot on the electrics. Easily upset by low voltage.....

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

154 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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I had all sorts of woe with my, ahem, Astra a few weeks ago because of the battery. ECP + discount code landed a Bosch S4 for £40 delivered!

Your car is at the age now where you need to step up the maintenance a bit and check things over - things like alternators, water pumps etc are likely to need replacing in the near future so keep an eye out at levels and warnings to avoid breakdowns. Good luck.


Fast Bug

11,720 posts

162 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Timbola said:
Fast Bug said:
You had to ring the RAC to check the oil level?
The E60 doesn't have an oil level dipstick, so you can't check it.

If engine oil is at or nearing the minimum level, there's a warning light on the dash which lights up telling you so.

Since the OP did say that that exact light lit up, it should have been fairly obvious I'd say, but being new to E60s, he may not know what the light was indicating.

Regardless, it's something a lot of E60 owners complaing about. It's a pain in the bum not being able to check your oil level, and only being told when it's getting low.
Everyday is a school day biggrin

It does sound like it needs a new battery, annoying for the OP yes, but not really something the dealer can do much about. I'd get the to replace the battery and ask for a little goodwill. Hopefully it won't put you off the car smile

98elise

26,657 posts

162 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Timbola said:
Fast Bug said:
You had to ring the RAC to check the oil level?
The E60 doesn't have an oil level dipstick, so you can't check it.

If engine oil is at or nearing the minimum level, there's a warning light on the dash which lights up telling you so.

Since the OP did say that that exact light lit up, it should have been fairly obvious I'd say, but being new to E60s, he may not know what the light was indicating.

Regardless, it's something a lot of E60 owners complaing about. It's a pain in the bum not being able to check your oil level, and only being told when it's getting low.
Thats mental, how do you know how much to put in? What happens when the sensor fails?

I had a car with an oil level sensor, and it cause me to over fill the car, which lead to an engine fire.

Muzzer79

10,050 posts

188 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Seriously?!?

You've had a low oil light, a couple of minor electrical glitches and a flat battery on a 9 year old, 95000 mile car.
The dealer hasn't even near at the car to rectify any of this and you want to reject it?

I despair at the modern car buyer sometimes.

Leave car with dealer. Dealer will fix car. Car will be fine.

I can't even begin to comprehend why rejecting the car has even crossed your mind.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Thursday 22nd August 2013
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Problem with the E60 is you can't just get a battery from ECP and wack it in DIY...well you can, to a degree.

Battery needs to be coded to the car, which is fackn ridiculous, it needs to be told it has a new battery and what the battery rating is. Something to do with changing the charging profile or some such bollards. If you don't do this the battery won't last long. You can do it with a BMTechnic cable and software which is about £50. Alternatively you have to get it done at a dealer or someone that knows what they are doing.

Seems to be the case that E60 batteries last 3-5 years (ish).