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S10GTA said:
I'm not actually looking at getting one, I was just looking to see what you could get in this budget. The answer seems to be very little unless you want a barge.
For me, a super saloon is a normal saloon car that has been fettled. A 156 GTA is a prime example. Lower, stiffer, bigger engine, body kit etc.
I would view it in the same way as the term "SuperCar" is used, i.e. the ultimate saloon out there on the market. Obviously this is a moving target, so whereas you can get a version of a standard E-class these days (eg E350) that is more powerful than the old Porsche-built W124 500E, only one of these I would class as a Super SaloonFor me, a super saloon is a normal saloon car that has been fettled. A 156 GTA is a prime example. Lower, stiffer, bigger engine, body kit etc.
Don't mean to sound disrespectful to anyone who has one, and I really do quite like them, but a 156 GTA is "just" a fast saloon IMO
S10GTA said:
I'm not actually looking at getting one, I was just looking to see what you could get in this budget. The answer seems to be very little unless you want a barge.
For me, a super saloon is a normal saloon car that has been fettled. A 156 GTA is a prime example. Lower, stiffer, bigger engine, body kit etc.
That's a rather individual definition of a super-saloon. Sounds like you're really looking for a fast repmobile (nothing wrong with that of course) which means only one answer is possible...... a manual Passat W8 4.0!For me, a super saloon is a normal saloon car that has been fettled. A 156 GTA is a prime example. Lower, stiffer, bigger engine, body kit etc.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
longblackcoat said:
S10GTA said:
I'm not actually looking at getting one, I was just looking to see what you could get in this budget. The answer seems to be very little unless you want a barge.
For me, a super saloon is a normal saloon car that has been fettled. A 156 GTA is a prime example. Lower, stiffer, bigger engine, body kit etc.
That's a rather individual definition of a super-saloon. Sounds like you're really looking for a fast repmobile (nothing wrong with that of course) which means only one answer is possible...... a manual Passat W8 4.0!For me, a super saloon is a normal saloon car that has been fettled. A 156 GTA is a prime example. Lower, stiffer, bigger engine, body kit etc.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
But that Passat....f
king ugly but I bet its quick. Would Q car be more appropriate?For me a super saloon is something that has a recognisable saloon body and interior, but can keep up in terms of speed and/or occasion, with the some of the better exotica.
Small list really if we're talking current stuff.. Top of the range AMG Black E Class maybe? A Bentley/RR? Etc.
Lots more if we look back a bit and compare to their contemporaries. That mental Lancia with the Ferrari engine for example.
Small list really if we're talking current stuff.. Top of the range AMG Black E Class maybe? A Bentley/RR? Etc.
Lots more if we look back a bit and compare to their contemporaries. That mental Lancia with the Ferrari engine for example.
Interesting topic this because I wouldn't classify an Impreza or an Evo as a super saloon. It would have to be something based on a more mundane model (I'm aware you could buy underpowered Imprezas at the time) as in the M5 above or indeed any performance-oriented high-end model. To be fair, I'd be hand pushed to classify a Sapphire Cosworth as a super saloon (although it would certainly be considered).
Oh, and one more thing...Lotus Carlton.
Oh, and one more thing...Lotus Carlton.
S10GTA said:
I'm not actually looking at getting one, I was just looking to see what you could get in this budget. The answer seems to be very little unless you want a barge.
For me, a super saloon is a normal saloon car that has been fettled. A 156 GTA is a prime example. Lower, stiffer, bigger engine, body kit etc.
To give you a better idea of what is a 'Super Saloon' here's the Autocars top 5 list of super saloons and at the bottom of the list is 9 more super saloons ;-)For me, a super saloon is a normal saloon car that has been fettled. A 156 GTA is a prime example. Lower, stiffer, bigger engine, body kit etc.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-categories/super-salo...
I drive a Jag XJR which has a 0-60 time of 5.2 seconds and yes its a bit of a barge but when in sports mode and you plant your foot you'd better be on a dry road and pointing in a straight line or the back end will try over taking you ;-)
OP, here are my costs from the previous year of ownership of my S Type R £7000, 4.2l 400hp.
Tyres- £1000 for a set (which it needed)
Service- £350
Ignition barrel collapsed £300
Colant bottle split, which would have cost £200 if my dad wasnt able to mend it and do the labour.
Steering wheel clockspring (excluding fitted as, again, my dad did it) £100
Track end rods, and anti roll bar links £400
By all means, if your budget is £1500 because you have taken running costs into consideration then buy a Super Saloon.
If you havnt considered the running costs and £1500 is all you can muster in total, then id forget it.
Maybe a sports saloon like the vxr astra is the way to go?
Tyres- £1000 for a set (which it needed)
Service- £350
Ignition barrel collapsed £300
Colant bottle split, which would have cost £200 if my dad wasnt able to mend it and do the labour.
Steering wheel clockspring (excluding fitted as, again, my dad did it) £100
Track end rods, and anti roll bar links £400
By all means, if your budget is £1500 because you have taken running costs into consideration then buy a Super Saloon.
If you havnt considered the running costs and £1500 is all you can muster in total, then id forget it.
Maybe a sports saloon like the vxr astra is the way to go?
OP, here are my costs from the previous year of ownership of my S Type R £7000, 4.2l 400hp.
Tyres- £1000 for a set (which it needed)
Service- £350
Ignition barrel collapsed £300
Colant bottle split, which would have cost £200 if my dad wasnt able to mend it and do the labour.
Steering wheel clockspring (excluding fitted as, again, my dad did it) £100
Track end rods, and anti roll bar links £400
By all means, if your budget is £1500 because you have taken running costs into consideration then buy a Super Saloon.
If you havnt considered the running costs and £1500 is all you can muster in total, then id forget it.
Maybe a sports saloon like the vxr astra is the way to go?
Tyres- £1000 for a set (which it needed)
Service- £350
Ignition barrel collapsed £300
Colant bottle split, which would have cost £200 if my dad wasnt able to mend it and do the labour.
Steering wheel clockspring (excluding fitted as, again, my dad did it) £100
Track end rods, and anti roll bar links £400
By all means, if your budget is £1500 because you have taken running costs into consideration then buy a Super Saloon.
If you havnt considered the running costs and £1500 is all you can muster in total, then id forget it.
Maybe a sports saloon like the vxr astra is the way to go?
I had one of these from new, kept it from 2000 to 2003.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
Really enjoyed it - fettled engine, interior and bodywork, all from the factory. Handled very well (lower suspension than others in the range), sounded great. Not that fast with just 192BHP but still a very enjoyable drive. Not in the C63 league, though.
I like the way that Vauxhall keep producing hotted up models, like it was still the 1980s and 90s, when everyone did it. Where's the current Mondeo ST220 or Accord Type-R? Even Renault and Peugeot made V6 saloons, as did Citroen, if memory serves, with a mentally engined Xantia!
My GSi was the 4 door and Star Silver, like the one advertised in the link. Saw my old one outside a local MOT station last year - really chuffed to glimpse it, 12 years on...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
Really enjoyed it - fettled engine, interior and bodywork, all from the factory. Handled very well (lower suspension than others in the range), sounded great. Not that fast with just 192BHP but still a very enjoyable drive. Not in the C63 league, though.
I like the way that Vauxhall keep producing hotted up models, like it was still the 1980s and 90s, when everyone did it. Where's the current Mondeo ST220 or Accord Type-R? Even Renault and Peugeot made V6 saloons, as did Citroen, if memory serves, with a mentally engined Xantia!
My GSi was the 4 door and Star Silver, like the one advertised in the link. Saw my old one outside a local MOT station last year - really chuffed to glimpse it, 12 years on...
Passeyfier said:
Interesting topic this because I wouldn't classify an Impreza or an Evo as a super saloon.
The Evo has a saloon body, delivers blistereing performance and has a rather respectable pedigree....not sure why it wouldn't be considered a super saloon.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIqWUd1SLMk
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