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Escy said:
When you've got 2 lanes that merge into 1. I'm sure we've all been in the situation where you won't let someone in or someone won't let you in. Anyone have an interesting tales when there is a battle of wits? Anyone ever just had a crash for the sake of principle?
A couple of weeks back, three lanes into two. Idiot in a Passat (who I call Passat t
t) decides to jump in front, actually touching wing mirrors as he squeezes through. He winds down his window and starts shouting "I WIN" in a very loud voice at me. I figure he's not the kind of person to mess with. I move over into the other lane.Fortunately the person in front of the Passat noticed what he'd done and pulled away very slowly, allowing me to cruise by and wave at Passat t
t. I think he was about to burst.Geekman said:
I get this all the time and I just force my way in, haven't crashed so far.
I had one where I forced my way in (everyone was merging one after the other and this guy wouldn't let me when it was my turn) and I did have a crash. Rule of thumb usually is don't mess with someone driving a banger (I was). It was a strange situation, after we collided at around 5mph, he braked, I went ahead, my mirror housing broke off. I don't know what was going through his mind, he was obviously having a rage to want to force me onto the wrong side of the road. He then drove like nothing happened, no flashing lights, didn't gesture for me to pull over, didn't beep, didn't even give me the finger. It was strange, all I can think is that he thought i'd come off worse as part of my car fell off. He was driving a new shape Yaris, probably worth around 8k at the time. He turned off the road 5 minutes later and I saw his car in my mirror, the whole side of it was damaged. I bet he was gutted when he saw. I did regret it when it happened, thought he'd report a hit and run or something. Never heard anything and it was 2 years ago.
Geekman said:
I get this all the time and I just force my way in, haven't crashed so far.
Bit of background: There is now a police car sitting on the chevrons most mornings at this junction stopping people squeezing up the 20 meters of road that they shouldn't be on, that's how much people try for a few spaces.The queue for the blackwall tunnel is always at 0.5mph, I'm always on the inside lane for the height restriction so have to deal with the final slip road joining the A2. I always let other vehicles join the road in front of me, most are fairly laid back there as it is a daily occurrence and most of the time I will let 5+ lorries and cars out throughout the length of the junction.
A few weeks ago there was a polish bloke in an audi a6 who decided that he can go for any gap that he wanted because people would rather let him in than crash. He tried to go for a gap between me and a coach working on the theory that one of us would move out of the way, I was looking in my drivers mirror at a bike squeezing next to me and the coach driver said that he was just watching the audi keep moving forward into an ever decreasing gap until we squashed him from both sides.
I knew that he was there when we were stationary but didn't think for a second anyone would be stupid enough to start moving forward into a shrinking gap. Why is it foreigners always want to stay in the exact spot that they crashed and wait for the police as if they are going to turn up and start making detailed drawings and conclusions? It took a few people to convince him that he couldn't park in the middle of the slip road blocking all of the traffic and would have to follow us up to a side road.
s p a c e m a n said:
Bit of background: There is now a police car sitting on the chevrons most mornings at this junction stopping people squeezing up the 20 meters of road that they shouldn't be on, that's how much people try for a few spaces.
The queue for the blackwall tunnel is always at 0.5mph, I'm always on the inside lane for the height restriction so have to deal with the final slip road joining the A2. I always let other vehicles join the road in front of me, most are fairly laid back there as it is a daily occurrence and most of the time I will let 5+ lorries and cars out throughout the length of the junction.
A few weeks ago there was a polish bloke in an audi a6 who decided that he can go for any gap that he wanted because people would rather let him in than crash. He tried to go for a gap between me and a coach working on the theory that one of us would move out of the way, I was looking in my drivers mirror at a bike squeezing next to me and the coach driver said that he was just watching the audi keep moving forward into an ever decreasing gap until we squashed him from both sides.
I knew that he was there when we were stationary but didn't think for a second anyone would be stupid enough to start moving forward into a shrinking gap. Why is it foreigners always want to stay in the exact spot that they crashed and wait for the police as if they are going to turn up and start making detailed drawings and conclusions? It took a few people to convince him that he couldn't park in the middle of the slip road blocking all of the traffic and would have to follow us up to a side road.
Should probably clarify - I'd never try to force my way in if (a) I was in the wrong or (b) there were large vehicles involved, as the risks of them not seeing you is far too great.The queue for the blackwall tunnel is always at 0.5mph, I'm always on the inside lane for the height restriction so have to deal with the final slip road joining the A2. I always let other vehicles join the road in front of me, most are fairly laid back there as it is a daily occurrence and most of the time I will let 5+ lorries and cars out throughout the length of the junction.
A few weeks ago there was a polish bloke in an audi a6 who decided that he can go for any gap that he wanted because people would rather let him in than crash. He tried to go for a gap between me and a coach working on the theory that one of us would move out of the way, I was looking in my drivers mirror at a bike squeezing next to me and the coach driver said that he was just watching the audi keep moving forward into an ever decreasing gap until we squashed him from both sides.
I knew that he was there when we were stationary but didn't think for a second anyone would be stupid enough to start moving forward into a shrinking gap. Why is it foreigners always want to stay in the exact spot that they crashed and wait for the police as if they are going to turn up and start making detailed drawings and conclusions? It took a few people to convince him that he couldn't park in the middle of the slip road blocking all of the traffic and would have to follow us up to a side road.
I'd be interested to see a streetview link of the location as I do that journey several times per week and can't quite place where you're talking about - are you referring to the merge in turn right before the tunnel entrance?
s p a c e m a n said:
Blackwall tunnel stuff
The worst barging in happens at the off slip for the Greenwich exit.They drive along right to the final part of off slip before you HAVE to go off and re-join
some using all the hatched lines,and some trying to get to L3 asap.
Wee boiler extraordinaire,luckily i don't have to use it too often at peak times....
thats the one ivaI had this one where the road went from 2 to 1 lane. I stood my ground don't know why, just in a pissy mood and didn't move a millimetre from the back of the car in front.The bloke knowing I won't let him in in a stupid merc with all chrome ,white coloured and black wheels gets so close to my car it is unreal. I beeped at him and he relented and pulled in behind me whilst giving me the nescafe sign..
The whole problem is everyone always thinks they are right, the ones who see people taking an orderly approach to a merge and think f-it I want to go to the front, a sort of being first complex, the same as the people who don't let outside mergers in the whole process will always be flawed.. You can never win it is a unwinnerable game with 2 sides, tits and more tits
The whole problem is everyone always thinks they are right, the ones who see people taking an orderly approach to a merge and think f-it I want to go to the front, a sort of being first complex, the same as the people who don't let outside mergers in the whole process will always be flawed.. You can never win it is a unwinnerable game with 2 sides, tits and more tits
Edited by The Spruce goose on Thursday 22 August 22:06
The Spruce goose said:
I had this one where the road went from 2 to 1 lane. I stood my ground don't know why, just in a pissy mood and didn't move a millimetre from the back of the car in front.The bloke knowing I won't let him in in a stupid merc with all chrome ,white coloured and black wheels gets so close to my car it is unreal. I beeped at him and he relented and pulled in behind me whilst giving me the nescafe sign..
The whole problem is everyone always thinks they are right, the ones who see people taking an orderly approach to a merge and think f-it I want to go to the front, a sort of being first complex, the same as the people who don't let outside mergers in the whole process will always be flawed.. You can never win it is a unwinnerable game with 2 sides, tits and more tits
Why wouldn't you let him in? Do you know how a zip works? One in front and one behind. HTHThe whole problem is everyone always thinks they are right, the ones who see people taking an orderly approach to a merge and think f-it I want to go to the front, a sort of being first complex, the same as the people who don't let outside mergers in the whole process will always be flawed.. You can never win it is a unwinnerable game with 2 sides, tits and more tits
Edited by The Spruce goose on Thursday 22 August 22:06
Roadworks, two lanes merge into one - the actual merge is probably about 150/200 yards ahead of a bus stop, left hand lane merges into the right hand lane.
I'm driving a bus, some people are waiting to get on and a few want to get off - as no one will ever let a bus merge in i'd normally wait in the queue but on this occasion I had a free path up to the bus stop in the left hand lane.
Driving along quite happily at 30mph and a van swerves across into my lane enough to force me to do an emergency stop, I try to go around him on a garage forecourt but he swerves even more to stop me doing that. I stop but he's at a 45* angle infront of me with his mirror resting on the bus (was trying to get me to drive into him)
He shouts to me that I should "wait my fking turn like everyone else", I (suprisingly calmly) explain that i'm driving a bus and there's people that want to get on/off and that his every move is being recorded by umpteenth cameras on the bus. He tells me to "get fked, im reporting you" (???????) and shuts his window and refuses to discuss the matter further while he cuts up a car to regain his position in the "queue". I alight/pick up my passengers, and the car infront of him immediately flashes me to go infront of him while he indicates he thinks mr van man is a wker 
I'm driving a bus, some people are waiting to get on and a few want to get off - as no one will ever let a bus merge in i'd normally wait in the queue but on this occasion I had a free path up to the bus stop in the left hand lane.
Driving along quite happily at 30mph and a van swerves across into my lane enough to force me to do an emergency stop, I try to go around him on a garage forecourt but he swerves even more to stop me doing that. I stop but he's at a 45* angle infront of me with his mirror resting on the bus (was trying to get me to drive into him)
He shouts to me that I should "wait my f
king turn like everyone else", I (suprisingly calmly) explain that i'm driving a bus and there's people that want to get on/off and that his every move is being recorded by umpteenth cameras on the bus. He tells me to "get fked, im reporting you" (???????) and shuts his window and refuses to discuss the matter further while he cuts up a car to regain his position in the "queue". I alight/pick up my passengers, and the car infront of him immediately flashes me to go infront of him while he indicates he thinks mr van man is a wker Edited by folos on Thursday 22 August 22:31
Edited by folos on Thursday 22 August 22:32
It's the tossers that pull over both lanes to block people going past in an empty lane when there's 800yds before you need to merge that annoy me.
Prime example, slip road was down to one lane at the end, 900yds of queuing traffic in the left lane, empty right lane, drove past the 1st 100yds of cars then some prick in an Astra decided to move out to block the 2 lanes/me, so just drove round him and bumped up onto the verge, cue a blast of his horn and a cheeky wave out the sunroof from me.
I just can't understand why people would choose to sit there for ages when the there's almost a full stretch clear.
Prime example, slip road was down to one lane at the end, 900yds of queuing traffic in the left lane, empty right lane, drove past the 1st 100yds of cars then some prick in an Astra decided to move out to block the 2 lanes/me, so just drove round him and bumped up onto the verge, cue a blast of his horn and a cheeky wave out the sunroof from me.
I just can't understand why people would choose to sit there for ages when the there's almost a full stretch clear.
Zoobeef said:
Why wouldn't you let him in? Do you know how a zip works? One in front and one behind. HTH
Yes sorry please explain how a zip works....Like most people on here i think you missed the point being made.
In reality the point i am making in a way is peoples emotions take over a process that should be simple but in reality is a version of randomised chaos theory.
Edited by The Spruce goose on Friday 23 August 21:29
I tried to squeeze in and had 2 cars blocking me. 2nd car ended up tapping the car in front so both stopped. Driver of 1st car got out looking daggers at me. I simply drove round him which seemed to annoy him as he promptly jumped in his car and chased after me. He seemed quite angry from my rearview mirror and actually managed to overtake me upon which he slammed on the anchors forcing us both to stop. He jumped out again at which point I drove round him again. He seemed to give up after that simply following behind until we went seperate ways.
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Escy said:
When you've got 2 lanes that merge into 1. I'm sure we've all been in the situation where you won't let someone in or someone won't let you in. Anyone have an interesting tales when there is a battle of wits? Anyone ever just had a crash for the sake of principle?
Used to own a mk2 cavalier cdi auto with dents and rust, which cost me £6.64 (long story). I used to travel across THE Bridge (the Mersey crossing at widnes/Runcorn) everyday on my commute. Never had anyone that didn't take one look, assume I was some underinsured
, with no licence, a false name, and mates called danny, who break legs for fun, and allow me to join the front of the queue. I did once wind my window down and say "Do you really think I give a s
t? I'm quite happy to have more dents, what about you?" I think I got some rude words in return, but I got my space. I was younger, I was desperate to get home in under 1 and a half hours.
Terminator X said:
I tried to squeeze in and had 2 cars blocking me. 2nd car ended up tapping the car in front so both stopped. Driver of 1st car got out looking daggers at me. I simply drove round him which seemed to annoy him as he promptly jumped in his car and chased after me. He seemed quite angry from my rearview mirror and actually managed to overtake me upon which he slammed on the anchors forcing us both to stop. He jumped out again at which point I drove round him again. He seemed to give up after that simply following behind until we went seperate ways.
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I'm sure I've posted this before but the best one I had was on the A55 in the roadworks near St Asaph a few years ago. Lane 2 was closed further along so I was trundling along it with some other folks to zip merge later. Came to merging point and they were all literally bursting vessels in lane 1 to ensure there was no way I was going to "queue jump" them. I just carried on trundling along making no attempt to barge in or anything, just waiting for someone who understands the zip merging concept to leave a gap etc. Suddenly the traffic started to move so Mr. knob in his landrover toes it to keep up with the guy in front and Mr. knob in his souped up Corsa behind him does exactly the same. Unfortunately they were paying too much attention on keeping me out and didn't notice that the traffic had come to a halt again which resulted in the knobber in the Corsa slamming into the back of the landrover
. His fibreglass bumper promptly disintegrated into 1000 pieces and landed in a pile on the road, along with the contents of his radiator. After clearing the tears of laughter from the eyes I merrily trundled on my way in the newly created gap in front of them whilst they exchanged insurance details. 
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