RE: Ford dresses for success: Time For Tea?

RE: Ford dresses for success: Time For Tea?

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JamStar

48 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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In America they've been using the Mercury brand for years for higher end Fords... like our Ford Cougar :-)

They didn't have Ford badges on them at all though. I think that brand was discontinued.

patrickgovier

69 posts

165 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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After watching that, I can confirm it still looks rubbish. The steering wheel was particularly hateful.

Redlake27

2,255 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Fords sell because they are (since 1990s) excellent cars. Not because of brand or status. But because they are usually better than the equivalent Renault, VW, Audi, Vauxhall, Peugeot etc

Whether the top model is a Titanium X, Ghia or Vignale, it means you are getting a well kitted out car on an invariably excellent platform.

But what annoys me about the quest for 'premium-ness' is the fact that that are all focused on dealer experiences. I hate going to a BMW, Audi or Porsche service centre, where a receptionist takes you to a consultant who takes you to desk based technician who has never seen under the bonnet of a car. You are then forced to wait 2hrs whilst they charge you £200 for an oil change and a run through the car wash.
That's why I use independents, and that's why Ford are barking up the wrong (fake wooden) tree.

Ford is a no-bull brand. I would buy a Mondeo Vignale because I think it is better value, better driving and better equipped than, say, an Audi A4 S-Line. Not because I can sit on the Velour Sofa in one corner of Dagenham Motors whilst the Popular Plus owners sit on wooden chairs.

jimmy the hat

429 posts

148 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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dgmx5 said:
GranCab said:
BOBBY G said:
le vagina*


Good work with the name ford!

  • (I know it needs an extra 'A')
Shirley it would be "la" - it is feminine after all ...
PistonHeads... pédantisme être important
Le vagin is masculine.

"Pedantry to be important"?

Cheers, Jim

Morningside

24,111 posts

230 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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clubsportguy said:
I bet the tarted up Escort is on the bottom pile of scrap cars now !!!
Yup it sure is. 2005 according to records.

will261058

1,115 posts

193 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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DanBMW said:
Can't see how its going to work as well as Lexus/Infiniti as they have no reference to Toyota/Nissan on them. Where as this still has the standard Ford badge and just has Vignale written on it, so it's just a ford with some expensive options.
Exactly what I was thinking. This is not a sub brand its a trim level!

MonkeySpanker

319 posts

138 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Back in the day if you had a Ghia badge on your Ford it was 'top of the range'. X-pack was more of a body package (spoilers etc) but was another addition to top of the rangeness.
A Mk2 Granada 2.8i Ghia X Executive was the top of the tree, the Granada was a proper executive car (for its time) but was also available in poverty spec 2.0, a 2.3 or 2.5 D or even rarer Turbo D (Peugeot engine from a 504).

It was a step up from a Cortina or Escort & something to 'want'.
That all stopped when Ford started giving you a choice of Fiesta, bigger Fiesta & slightly bigger than that Fiesta.

AlexKing

613 posts

159 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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My, what a tremendous load of point-missing toss this initiative from Ford is.

fathomfive

9,950 posts

191 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Regardless of the badge, that interior is a whole heap better than some of the efforts of the 'premium' brigade of late.


TobesH

550 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Morningside said:
clubsportguy said:
I bet the tarted up Escort is on the bottom pile of scrap cars now !!!
Yup it sure is. 2005 according to records.
I wonder if she is? 22 years ago...

ukmike2000

476 posts

169 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Not sure that "Vignale" is going to help much because people will see it as another version of Ghia - which most recently was sold to the guy who wanted to be seen at the golf club with something better than a Zetec, but comfy rather than sporty.

The really sad part about this is that the Mondeo/Focus etc are really good cars and many times have qualities better than their German competition in terms of everyday comfort and handling. Very poor image however. The Mondeo is a remarkable car for the money - better comfort than Audi/BMW etc, good performance, refinement and economy, high equipment levels - and more exclusive than a BMW 3 series! Unfortunately its a dying breed as the Mondeo is a bit big for a family car (but not as big as an MPV) and companies are now supplying more Focus sized cars to their younger executives as the senior ones lap up the Audi/Merc/BMW ranges.

In modern Britain, the Mondeo doesn't fit as well as it once used to. Which is a shame because it is a damn good car.

ukmike2000

476 posts

169 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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1974foggy said:
Can't stand that new droopy grille they put on everything these days, like a trout wearing chrome lipstick on these.
But you would put up with it on an Aston Martin I take it? :-)

canucklehead

416 posts

147 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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clearly they didn't do anything about the escort's incredibly shonky handling, judging from the 'after' driving shot at the end. i've seen '73 caddy pimpmobiles with better jounce control.

girl was cute tho.

LordFlathead

9,642 posts

259 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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The Ford Vagina:

Put the eggs straight into the toaster..

That's what happens when you forget to put the inspiration into the car. The middle bit IS important.

Awful.

beasto

323 posts

215 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Have just bought a 156k black diesel Mondeo Estate.

Cheap, fast, spacious, goes round corners.

Unadorned, chrome grille soon to be satin-black.


This Vignale is the opposite - an uber-chromed tartmobile.


Ugh.

Edited by beasto on Thursday 5th September 21:37


Edited by beasto on Thursday 5th September 21:38

Escort Si-130

3,275 posts

181 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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lol, whilst on the subject. I wonder if the bird in the Escort video has a great ole' furburger; that was the thing some years ago. She is kinda hot though.

GranCab said:
Shirley it would be "la" - it is feminine after all ...

Escort Si-130

3,275 posts

181 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Nope Range Rover classic drug dealer version

Jasper Gilder said:
Didn't this used to be Ghia - or did Ford wreck that with Chavdom

Bloody good thing Henry II never bought Ferrari or we'd have the Ferrari Mondeo

This demonstrates a company with a marketing and design arm which is bankrupt of ideas and trying to find the future in the past

What next - the Mondeo Radisich?

Escort Si-130

3,275 posts

181 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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On Sunday I saw a black Mondeo, of the new version, an estate but with funny plates, could not ID it. Maybe it was a test mule as I thought it was due for release in 2014.

Baryonyx

18,006 posts

160 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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TobesH said:
I wonder if she is? 22 years ago...
Someone must know who this beauty is?

Goofnik

216 posts

141 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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To be fair, it worked very well in the US for Mercury.

Oh, wait...