RE: Jaguar C-X17 full details
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don logan said:
RacerMike said:
don logan said:
I thought I saw this the other day, couldn't imagine what else it could be now that the RR Sport is out etc
As you can see it was accompanied by a full size RR which was LHD on UK plates
Sorry to disappoint, but that's just one of the remaining camo'd 'SportsAs you can see it was accompanied by a full size RR which was LHD on UK plates
monthefish said:
ESOG said:
Ugh, enough with the SUV's already!!! STICK TO MAKING CARS AND SPORTS CARS!!!!! LEAVE THE SUVS TO other marques!
Why?The idea that these companies are there to make money and have a responsibility to their shareholders and employees to make products that actually sell is actually a mere conceit - a vanity - that these car companies need to shake immediately.
Lamborghini are another one doing this with SUVs. I don't buy their products as I cannot, and am not likely to ever, afford them. However, the fact they have the TEMERITY to makes something other than a mid engine supercar, 'to sell' of all the brazen vulgarities, makes me sick.
ETA - they have done a decent job design wise for a type of motor vehicle I have little to no interest in. Still wouldn't buy one personally. But if they made it, it would sell and create jobs in The West Midlands all the way down its supply chain (though there is the question of how many sales they will be taking from Land Rover).
ANYWAY - its a 3 series rival next up, which they do really need.
RenOHH said:
deltashad said:
Best seller will be the 2.0td with sport pack
very original
Don't hate the player, hate the game.very original
That's the market of today.
WokkaWokka said:
I'm sure there is a very strong correlation between earnings/milage that denotes that most people will require a 2.0 and then also most people want to be "Sporty" so opt for a factory fit body kit, S Line et al.
I wouldn't, I'd go for comfort and a decent engine. Just making a point that the general public buy the same thing, so they look like their neighbour but the badge is the new latest fad, until the next one comes out.As a petrolhead I find this tiresome and expected and boring. This is ph forum.
Not whatcar.
Vocal Minority said:
monthefish said:
ESOG said:
Ugh, enough with the SUV's already!!! STICK TO MAKING CARS AND SPORTS CARS!!!!! LEAVE THE SUVS TO other marques!
Why?The idea that these companies are there to make money and have a responsibility to their shareholders and employees to make products that actually sell is actually a mere conceit - a vanity - that these car companies need to shake immediately.
Lamborghini are another one doing this with SUVs. I don't buy their products as I cannot, and am not likely to ever, afford them. However, the fact they have the TEMERITY to makes something other than a mid engine supercar, 'to sell' of all the brazen vulgarities, makes me sick.
ETA - they have done a decent job design wise for a type of motor vehicle I have little to no interest in. Still wouldn't buy one personally. But if they made it, it would sell and create jobs in The West Midlands all the way down its supply chain (though there is the question of how many sales they will be taking from Land Rover).
ANYWAY - its a 3 series rival next up, which they do really need.
WokkaWokka said:
I'm sure there is a very strong correlation between earnings/milage that denotes that most people will require a 2.0 and then also most people want to be "Sporty" so opt for a factory fit body kit, S Line et al.
I wouldn't, I'd go for comfort and a decent engine. Just making a point that the general public buy the same thing, so they look like their neighbour but the badge is the new latest fad, until the next one comes out.As a petrolhead I find this tiresome and expected and boring. This is ph forum.
Not whatcar.
NGK210 said:
Hated SUVs, 'til I drove an X5 
Its airy cabin was relaxing and comfortable, the raised seat height/eye line was useful for seeing ahead in town traffic and over hedges, etc, on B-roads. And, dare I say it, I also liked its sense of security.
Its handling was a revelation and the AWD useful in snow/rain/floods or for softcore off-roading - eg, crossing a wet Glasto' field - and its inability to match a Rangie or Disco off-road was inconsequential, as I'm not a farmer or a huntin'/shootin'/fishin' type.
But I'm also not an urban coke dealer/pimp-type and I dislike the X5's 'get out of my way little man!' vibe, which Jag seems to have neatly side-stepped.
Canny Jag, very canny
^This^Its airy cabin was relaxing and comfortable, the raised seat height/eye line was useful for seeing ahead in town traffic and over hedges, etc, on B-roads. And, dare I say it, I also liked its sense of security.
Its handling was a revelation and the AWD useful in snow/rain/floods or for softcore off-roading - eg, crossing a wet Glasto' field - and its inability to match a Rangie or Disco off-road was inconsequential, as I'm not a farmer or a huntin'/shootin'/fishin' type.
But I'm also not an urban coke dealer/pimp-type and I dislike the X5's 'get out of my way little man!' vibe, which Jag seems to have neatly side-stepped.
Canny Jag, very canny
Edited by NGK210 on Monday 9th September 23:13
Most importantly this will be a mammoth seller in North America, where they like Jags but actually want / need 4x4's
Can't remember if the XF is available as a 4x4 in the American Market (please correct me) but this will certainly snatch sales from BMW and Mercedes in North America, too stunning to look at for the Chinese Market though
Probably the long release time is to not grab sales from the current RR Sport? (Could be wrong)
Awesome job Jaguar, just awesome.
wildcat45 said:
john_r said:
Glad it's not just me then... slightly squarer 'BMW' front with a Jag grill and a bigger roof lip spoiler on a Mazda CX-7.
I could not replace my 2.3 petrol CX-7 when I came to change. They had stopped building it. I now have a very nice but slow Freelander SD4. I wish they'd been selling this Jag back at Christmas. It would suit my needs and wants perfectly.How much of this is based on Land Rover technology?
(The CX-7 is still in the family, just not mine any more. I miss it.)
renorti said:
can't wait, in 3 or 4 years be able to buy one for under 10k.
Having read the article, it would appear you'll be lucky to be able to buy a new one in 3 - 4 years. Apart from that, seeing as 3-4 year old Discoverys (Discoveries?) retail at over 20k, 10k seems rather optimistic.M Powered said:
Don't give away the inside knowledge!
Trouble is that Alcan shut down their UK smelter because of high and rising energy costs - thanks to the efforts of misguided politicians. If JLR`s venture in Saudi Arabia works out, they could be getting some of their aluminium from there.M Powered said:
Don't give away the inside knowledge!
Trouble is that Alcan shut down their UK smelter because of high and rising energy costs - thanks to the efforts of misguided politicians. If JLR`s venture in Saudi Arabia works out, they could be getting some of their aluminium from there.M Powered said:
Don't give away the inside knowledge!
Trouble is that Alcan shut down their UK smelter because of high and rising energy costs - thanks to the efforts of misguided politicians. If JLR`s venture in Saudi Arabia works out, they could be getting some of their aluminium from there.M Powered said:
Don't give away the inside knowledge!
Trouble is that Alcan shut down their UK smelter because of high and rising energy costs - thanks to the efforts of misguided politicians. If JLR`s venture in Saudi Arabia works out, they could be getting some of their aluminium from there.M Powered said:
Don't give away the inside knowledge!
Trouble is that Alcan shut down their UK smelter because of high and rising energy costs - thanks to the efforts of misguided politicians. If JLR`s venture in Saudi Arabia works out, they could be getting some of their aluminium from there.oldtimer2 said:
Trouble is that Alcan shut down their UK smelter because of high and rising energy costs - thanks to the efforts of misguided politicians. If JLR`s venture in Saudi Arabia works out, they could be getting some of their aluminium from there.
What's the JLR venture in Saudi? I live in RiyadhI like Jag a lot! But to lug my family around I would need more seats
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