Unlock car using mobile phone - urban myth?

Unlock car using mobile phone - urban myth?

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nsa

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1,683 posts

229 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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I received this by email today. I might try it out tonight but if anybody has time today I'd be interested to hear if it works. Apologies if it's a repost. The idea is you can call somebody on your mobile, and if they have the keys and blip the remote next to their phone, and you hold your phone near the car door, your car will "hear" the remote and unlock. I doubt it, but...

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Does your car have remote keyless entry? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their mobile phone from your cell phone.

Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone on their end. Your car will unlock. Saves someone from having to
drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other 'remote' for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk).
Editor's Note: It works fine! We tried it out and it unlocked our car over a mobile phone!'

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Wow, bit late for April.

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Myth. Mobile phones aren't designed to retransmit the frequencies used by remotes.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp

kambites

67,587 posts

222 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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They aren't even designed to work with the same type of energy. Phones use a microphone to pick up compression waves in the air, key fobs are radio frequency.

nsa

Original Poster:

1,683 posts

229 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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kambites said:
They aren't even designed to work with the same type of energy. Phones use a microphone to pick up compression waves in the air, key fobs are radio frequency.
You are my hero. Thanks.

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Why start the thread?

We all know it doesn't work and yet you tried to claim it did.

nsa

Original Poster:

1,683 posts

229 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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nsa said:
I received this by email today...I'd be interested to hear if it works...I doubt it, but...

dave7692

683 posts

130 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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zebra said:
Why start the thread?

We all know it doesn't work and yet you tried to claim it did.
I think the claim that it worked was part of the quote from the E-Mail not him claiming to have tried it.

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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dave7692 said:
I think the claim that it worked was part of the quote from the E-Mail not him claiming to have tried it.
Yeah, got that now.



Pappa Lurve

3,827 posts

283 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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This one has been going around forever. There is kit out there that you can aquire and use to get keyless entry cars going or to snatch codes from remotes but a mobile is not one of them. However, you can open any car with an old mobile phone.... simply throw it with consdierable force and the window :-P

DonkeyApple

55,403 posts

170 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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zebra said:
Why start the thread?

We all know it doesn't work and yet you tried to claim it did.
I'm sure you can read but you are claiming not to be able to wink

CallorFold

832 posts

134 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Complete myth, but would be kinda fun if it was true!

Pappa Lurve

3,827 posts

283 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Put of curiosity - I assume all these remotes work on either IR or radio waves. In theory, could one not convert a phone to generate the right waves as a phone is in essence just a radio of sorts. Forget that to do so would be totally inpracticle and presumably require some rather specialist kit, but why, in theory, could a phone not be made to generate the right wave length?

h0b0

7,626 posts

197 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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The learning remote from a Mitsubishi video recorder could open my mother Renault 18. I had to have the key within 2 inches of the remote to "learn" it but once programmed the remote worked better than the key at unlocking the car.

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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DonkeyApple said:
I'm sure you can read but you are claiming not to be able to wink
Dyslexia and ignorance are bliss. smile

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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The mechanism the OP talks about is of course a complete myth.

Having said that, I can lock/unlock my car with my phone, remotely.
It's a BMW with ConnectedDrive, and the BMW android app permits remote locking/unlocking.

I'd show you screencaps, but thumbsnap is having a bit of a morning.

C

ETA: before someone jumps in calling "bull", the car has a sim in it and the unlock process involves BMW calling the car. It's the same system that permits remote telemetry and/or SOS calls.

Edited by CraigyMc on Monday 16th September 11:44

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Pappa Lurve said:
Put of curiosity - I assume all these remotes work on either IR or radio waves.
868Mhz for mine. I'd be surprised if anything modern needed an IR connection.

C

mrmr96

13,736 posts

205 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Pappa Lurve said:
Put of curiosity - I assume all these remotes work on either IR or radio waves. In theory, could one not convert a phone to generate the right waves as a phone is in essence just a radio of sorts. Forget that to do so would be totally inpracticle and presumably require some rather specialist kit, but why, in theory, could a phone not be made to generate the right wave length?
They use radio waves.

If you could convert BOTH phones as follows then it WOULD work:

Phone at Home:
Needs to be able to receive radio waves at the right frequency, convert them into a data stream which can be sent over the mobile network.

Phone at Car:
Needs to be able to receive data stream from mobile network and reproduce the radio signal at the required frequency.

However that's a hell of a mod, and what you end up with isn't really a phone.

balls-out

3,613 posts

232 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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mrmr96 said:
Pappa Lurve said:
Put of curiosity - I assume all these remotes work on either IR or radio waves. In theory, could one not convert a phone to generate the right waves as a phone is in essence just a radio of sorts. Forget that to do so would be totally inpracticle and presumably require some rather specialist kit, but why, in theory, could a phone not be made to generate the right wave length?
They use radio waves.

If you could convert BOTH phones as follows then it WOULD work:

Phone at Home:
Needs to be able to receive radio waves at the right frequency, convert them into a data stream which can be sent over the mobile network.

Phone at Car:
Needs to be able to receive data stream from mobile network and reproduce the radio signal at the required frequency.

However that's a hell of a mod, and what you end up with isn't really a phone.
Rubbish.
FACT: mobile phones work on invisible electricery
FACT: So do car alarms.

Its obvious that they are the same. I frequently call my wife on my key fob.jester

DonkeyApple

55,403 posts

170 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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zebra said:
DonkeyApple said:
I'm sure you can read but you are claiming not to be able to wink
Dyslexia and ignorance are bliss. smile
You don't have to tell me.