7-9 seater for school run - licence ?
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Hi All,
My brother has just come up with a new business idea for himself.
He has realised that his eldest (who is going to secondary school) next year, will need transport to and from.
He also realises that the options are:
1. Walk & train
2. Bus service
So he thought, "how about if I buy a 7-9 seater and drop my kid and his friends for a small fee"
As he is an active parent at the school and I think he could have a small business opportunity. He is currently out of work and is looking at various small investment business ideas.
The school the kids will be going to is 6-8 miles away and the small town (where the school is located) is very, very busy at school times. Can take 1 hour to get in and out!
So the main question is, does he need some sort of taxi licence? He has confirmed he will not do any other work except school drop off and pick up and will be paid on a monthly or quarterly basis by the parents direct into bank account and therefore no cash.
Help much appreciated.
IceBoy
My brother has just come up with a new business idea for himself.
He has realised that his eldest (who is going to secondary school) next year, will need transport to and from.
He also realises that the options are:
1. Walk & train
2. Bus service
So he thought, "how about if I buy a 7-9 seater and drop my kid and his friends for a small fee"
As he is an active parent at the school and I think he could have a small business opportunity. He is currently out of work and is looking at various small investment business ideas.
The school the kids will be going to is 6-8 miles away and the small town (where the school is located) is very, very busy at school times. Can take 1 hour to get in and out!
So the main question is, does he need some sort of taxi licence? He has confirmed he will not do any other work except school drop off and pick up and will be paid on a monthly or quarterly basis by the parents direct into bank account and therefore no cash.
Help much appreciated.
IceBoy
Off top of head at a minimum he would need to be registered as a taxi (driving for hire/reward) commercial insurance, possibly liability insurance as well.
Would also be best to be DBS cleared as well (new name for CB checks) if carrying unaccompanied minors.
As long as a maximum of 8 passengers, normal license would be fine.
Would also be best to be DBS cleared as well (new name for CB checks) if carrying unaccompanied minors.
As long as a maximum of 8 passengers, normal license would be fine.
He will most probaably need a PCV Licence if he is carrying more than 8 passengers.
As well as him, the vehicle will need to be tested and licensed by the local council.
Most school contracts are awarded by the local councils for a pittance, not a way to make a living.
And the insurance will initially be a crippler until he builds up some no claims which is not usually transferable.
As well as him, the vehicle will need to be tested and licensed by the local council.
Most school contracts are awarded by the local councils for a pittance, not a way to make a living.
And the insurance will initially be a crippler until he builds up some no claims which is not usually transferable.
He would need to be insured for hire & reward purposes, which would involve some kind of private hire insurance, this doesn't mean he needs to be registered as a Taxi in some places but it would need checking. Under 8 passenger seats means an ordinary B licence would be ok, but for a larger vehicle he needs a D1 (PSV) licence which involves a medical etc.
There is a way around the need for a D1 but that involves proving you are a not for profit organisation and is usually reserved for schools and charities.
There is a way around the need for a D1 but that involves proving you are a not for profit organisation and is usually reserved for schools and charities.
Some rules:
https://www.gov.uk/driving-a-minibus
A guide:
http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/info/minibus_code_...
Am I also right in thinking that the older type of minibus would not have the correct seats. ie up to date crash standard.
https://www.gov.uk/driving-a-minibus
A guide:
http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/info/minibus_code_...
Am I also right in thinking that the older type of minibus would not have the correct seats. ie up to date crash standard.
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