Australian driver tries to pay parking fine in small change!

[kambites]

mrmr96 said:

kambites said:

I think it's a common mistake to make - a lot of people confused "currency" with "legal tender". You can have currency that's not legal tender and, in theory, legal tender that's not monetary currency (although I don't know if anywhere does the latter).

What about the new £20 coin?
Or the old £1m and £100m notes?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21145103

I suspect they are not legal tender at all, although I might be wrong.

[CDP]

This guy seems to think he can attack "the system" by being unpleasant to the people operating it at the lowest level who have no more ability to change it than him. It's like people who get nasty with shop assistants about faulty goods, it's not their fault.

Frankly if I were them (assuming it's not too busy) I'd probably have just accepted it and made wait while counting every penny and smiled knowing I was getting paid for the time spent while he was wasting his day off...

[Greg_D]

TooLateForAName said:

So ps off with your £50 note and penny chew.

It's all to do with whether the 'service' has been consumed..............if your customer ate the penny chew in front of you, you would be obliged to take the £50 note as a debt would be owed and thus legal tender MUST be accepted.

[CDP]

Greg_D said:

TooLateForAName said:

So ps off with your £50 note and penny chew.

It's all to do with whether the 'service' has been consumed..............if your customer ate the penny chew in front of you, you would be obliged to take the £50 note as a debt would be owed and thus legal tender MUST be accepted.

But what if they're unable to give change or doing so will prevent you from being able to serve the next customer? A newspaper seller or sweetshop isn't Tesco you know...

[Greg_D]

tbh, once you have got to change for a tenner - which would be a 'reasonable' note to give for any debt, you are only looking at an additional 2 x £20 to complete the change - notes that you were going to do nothing with until they were banked anyway as they are the normal 'ceiling' for day to day transactions.

What sort of a tin pot shop couldn't give change for a £50 anyway............

i was discussing the differing status in law anyway, not float management for the modern convenience store manager!!!!!

[CDP]

Greg_D said:

tbh, once you have got to change for a tenner - which would be a 'reasonable' note to give for any debt, you are only looking at an additional 2 x £20 to complete the change - notes that you were going to do nothing with until they were banked anyway as they are the normal 'ceiling' for day to day transactions.

What sort of a tin pot shop couldn't give change for a £50 anyway............

i was discussing the differing status in law anyway, not float management for the modern convenience store manager!!!!!

Some small businesses may have trouble if it's the first transaction of the day. I've seen it first hand more than once.

[Greg_D]

CDP said:

Greg_D said:

tbh, once you have got to change for a tenner - which would be a 'reasonable' note to give for any debt, you are only looking at an additional 2 x £20 to complete the change - notes that you were going to do nothing with until they were banked anyway as they are the normal 'ceiling' for day to day transactions.

What sort of a tin pot shop couldn't give change for a £50 anyway............

i was discussing the differing status in law anyway, not float management for the modern convenience store manager!!!!!

Some small businesses may have trouble if it's the first transaction of the day. I've seen it first hand more than once.

Such poor planning could be a contributing factor as to why they remain small, how difficult can it be to chuck a couple of £20s in the till along with your usual float, jeez....... they could always let you off with the penny sweet if it is that much of a problem...

I too have seen shops struggling to give change, it's their problem, not yours. poor planning in the extreme....

[CDP]

Greg_D said:

CDP said:

Greg_D said:

tbh, once you have got to change for a tenner - which would be a 'reasonable' note to give for any debt, you are only looking at an additional 2 x £20 to complete the change - notes that you were going to do nothing with until they were banked anyway as they are the normal 'ceiling' for day to day transactions.

What sort of a tin pot shop couldn't give change for a £50 anyway............

i was discussing the differing status in law anyway, not float management for the modern convenience store manager!!!!!

Some small businesses may have trouble if it's the first transaction of the day. I've seen it first hand more than once.

Such poor planning could be a contributing factor as to why they remain small, how difficult can it be to chuck a couple of £20s in the till along with your usual float, jeez....... they could always let you off with the penny sweet if it is that much of a problem...

I too have seen shops struggling to give change, it's their problem, not yours. poor planning in the extreme....

Poor planning or poor shop keeper? Not everybody running a business is coining it, some of these places are just hanging on. I've know people who would really have been better off on the dole but for reasons of pride continued.

Besides, the seller is perfectly within rights to refuse the sale. I was in Amsterdam at the weekend and noticed several shops that had signs stating they wouldn't accept 50 Euro notes...

[CraigyMc]

CDP said:

Poor planning or poor shop keeper? Not everybody running a business is coining it, some of these places are just hanging on. I've know people who would really have been better off on the dole but for reasons of pride continued.

It's a shame.

I watched an interview with Sir Stuart Rose (ex-Marks and Spencer boss) basically saying "stop trying to bring the dead back to life - better to spend the time making the living better".

C

[CDP]

CraigyMc said:

CDP said:

Poor planning or poor shop keeper? Not everybody running a business is coining it, some of these places are just hanging on. I've know people who would really have been better off on the dole but for reasons of pride continued.

It's a shame.

I watched an interview with Sir Stuart Rose (ex-Marks and Spencer boss) basically saying "stop trying to bring the dead back to life - better to spend the time making the living better".

C

That's a logical answer and in most cases right but human nature being what it is these people will cling on and a few even recover. When their homes and savings are on the line too it makes that kind of decision so much harder.