High risk in Australia

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Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-n...

Apparently the Australian authorities are having fits of the vapours after someone drove at 130 on the Melbourne to Sydney road (KMH not MPH).

s m

23,215 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Dr Jekyll said:
http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-n...

Apparently the Australian authorities are having fits of the vapours after someone drove at 130 on the Melbourne to Sydney road (KMH not MPH).
If they'd have been in Northern Territory it might have been legal - drivers are less dangerous up there......

Debaser

5,743 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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A lot of otherwise sane people in Australia will really think this is outrageous.

CraigyMc

16,381 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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s m said:
Dr Jekyll said:
http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-n...

Apparently the Australian authorities are having fits of the vapours after someone drove at 130 on the Melbourne to Sydney road (KMH not MPH).
If they'd have been in Northern Territory it might have been legal - drivers are less dangerous up there......
Until a few years ago the Stuart highway had no limit - CAR trashed a 911 turbo by driving it at >180mph a lot of the way and the insect damage at that speed required a new bonnet and nose.

The authorities in Oz have simply got wrapped up in health and safety bks, plain and simple. If speed killed then 110km/h would be too fast, and so would 5km/h. It's a balance and their balance is wrong.

C

hyperblue

2,800 posts

180 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Ooh the dizzying heights of 80mph!

CraigyMc

16,381 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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hyperblue said:
Ooh the dizzying heights of 80mph!
I'm sure they'll never recover.

C

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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LOL If you think its H & S nuts here, go to OZ!

paolow

3,208 posts

258 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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mikal83 said:
LOL If you think its H & S nuts here, go to OZ!
1000% +1

When younger I had a stonking job in WA but decided against staying for (amongst other things including very punitive taxes) the utter, utter nannying by the government. It makes us look like our H & S is still in the 70's by contrast and that was 15 years ago....

Disappointing for a proud country to be SO risk averse

Sid's Dad

576 posts

141 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I agree that Oz has a bizarrely nannying culture, but the death rate on their roads was truly appalling. Much of the problem lies in poor road layouts (side roads opening onto fast A roads without roundabouts, for example) and long distances, leading to fatigue. Cutting speed is quite effective against both these problems, which is why they have adopted them with such vigour. And the human cost of that death rate was so dreadful that, in the main, the people respect the very low speed limits.

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

165 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Sid's Dad said:
the problem lies in poor road layouts (side roads opening onto fast A roads without roundabouts, for example)
I know what you mean. We have lots of these here in the UK as well.

Toltec

7,159 posts

223 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Sid's Dad said:
and long distances, leading to fatigue. Cutting speed is quite effective against both these problems,
Yes, as taking longer to get where you are going really helps fatigue.

To be fair in OZ long distances are probably long enough so knocking off an hour probably still means a twelve hour drive.


Edited by Toltec on Tuesday 17th September 22:37

jamesson

2,985 posts

221 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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mikal83 said:
LOL If you think its H & S nuts here, go to OZ!
That's what this thread is all about. The clue is in the title! smile

Kawasicki

13,077 posts

235 months

Saturday 21st September 2013
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The Australians I hang out with are either happy to regularly take (what I consider to be) huge risks, or they seem completely petrified of life. It's weird. I prefer to spend time with the former.

ozmark

1 posts

126 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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As a born and bred local it has been sad to watch Australia turn into a nanny state over the years. It's just un-Australian. Many of the previous comments are pretty spot on regarding the lack of balance here. Enforcement is pretty much driven by what can be measured electronically and converted to a revenue raising fine (and if you run out of points on your licence you can just buy some back). As late as the 70's Victoria (my state) had unrestricted speed limits on the highways. You could go at any speed so long as you were driving safely. 200k in a 911 on a 4 lane empty freeway, no probs, 160k in a truck and you would be busted. Today if I do over 125k on any freeway/highway I lose my licence and get the same penalty as someone caught driving over 65k through a school zone. There is little enforcement to catch people who are dangerous at any speed and should not be on the road. Most of us still have some favourite remote spots to enjoy some driving on, but the risk of being caught is very high. I now tend to reserve my need for speed to days on the racetrack. Fortunately we have lots of them around Melbourne. Anyway, enough ranting, time to jump in the car and do my 100k commute to the office, all highway driving but restricted to 80/100k the whole way. Mind you, the traffic is so bad here in the mornings that I will probably only average 50k anyway :-)

Silent1

19,761 posts

235 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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I had the pleasure of driving well over 100 MPH in a PHers Monaro in Australia and overtaking quite a few people down a long canyon/forest road with miles of visibility, I loved it but the st I got from someone when I stopped at a scenic spot for photos was immense

XB70

2,482 posts

196 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Been back nearly a year. Here are my comments:

- get some proper baby seats and toddler seats on the market, not the garbage that is offered for sale. And ISOFIX for crying out loud - only now been introduced next year!!!
- driving standards are appalling - tailgating, right hand land hogging, red lights are optional, green man for pedestrians means nothing just drive around/through them, no indicating, undertaking.....pathetic.

I don't think OZ could actually cope with a higher speed limit: people will NOT pull over from the outside overtaking lane; the tailgating means they would pile into the back of each other at higher velocities and the motorways are pretty average in any event.

Echo the comments about shocking road design.

Kawasicki

13,077 posts

235 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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XB70 said:
I don't think OZ could actually cope with a higher speed limit: people will NOT pull over from the outside overtaking lane
It's not really an overtaking lane in Victoria, where we have bunched up packets of 20 or so vehicles...cars, vans & trucks...all doing 101.7km/h....with 2km of empty road both ahead and behind. Occasionally some nutter makes a break for it...at a risky 102km/h. Crazy hoon!

Pommygranite

14,243 posts

216 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Last year I had 6 x $75 fines (no points) all for being 3 and 8 km/h over the speed limt.

That's right - £50 fines for no more than 5 mph over the limit.

And people wonder why driving a fast car in Oz is seen as pointless.

panholio

1,079 posts

148 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Didn't realise the limit was so high in Italy (150km/h).

Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Didn't know that Volvo made a 'super-fast turbocharged sedan'!