RE: Caterham AeroSeven Concept

RE: Caterham AeroSeven Concept

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mikebradford

2,518 posts

145 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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think the mexicans have done a better job, visually - Vuhl 05



cptsideways

13,545 posts

252 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Oh my god, that is so wrong. I just hope Caterham are reading this & they put their hands & "Don't worry folks,it was just a joke, we quite liked some of the ideas on here & we will be following these up for a production version.

An ex employee of ours has been sent back to the music industry to play his piano again with his P45 in hand.

DJWuk

1,670 posts

181 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Only just caught up with this and even being a devout Caterham owner I have to say WTF !!!!

Looks like a blue Peter special. Sooooooo embarrassing for Caterham design team !

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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DJWuk said:
Caterham design team !
The what?

disco666

233 posts

146 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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I cannot believe I have just skimmed through 8 pages of comments critisising the appearance of this car.

The current model has gone as far as it can with the bodyshell it has. Competitors using a similar philosophy, but using modern aero are leaving it behind.

Caterham must change the body to keep up, and this gives them the chance to incorporate some modern tech at the same time.

The looks are way down on the list of priorities, as they should be in a car of this type.

There are a lot of clever people on PH forums and I do not like to critisise, but on this occasion I think everybody is missing the point entirely.

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

207 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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disco666 said:
I cannot believe I have just skimmed through 8 pages of comments critisising the appearance of this car.

The current model has gone as far as it can with the bodyshell it has. Competitors using a similar philosophy, but using modern aero are leaving it behind.

Caterham must change the body to keep up, and this gives them the chance to incorporate some modern tech at the same time.

The looks are way down on the list of priorities, as they should be in a car of this type.

There are a lot of clever people on PH forums and I do not like to criticise, but on this occasion I think everybody is missing the point entirely.
You're the designer aren't you?
Actually, that can't be as you appear literate and intelligent and whoever was sitting at the CAD station on their lunch break from licking envelopes clearly wouldn't be.

I don't think any of us are missing the point, I think you are. Where did you get the idea that looks are way down on the list of priorities? They should follow function for this sort of car, yes, as they did with the original Seven. There is no reason why this car needs to be so hideously ugly, it seems almost deliberately foul in proportion and styling. Everyone was expecting an updated Seven but what does this bring to the party? A slipperier body shape whilst being more impractical and completely undesirable. Any half talented designer could do a sterling job of creating a modern Seven that would take the fight to the new upstarts and be a seriously handsome and desirable car. It's a dream brief, a once in a lifetime opportunity and I'll bet there are hundreds of designers out there right now who despaired when they saw this. What a fking waste.


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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disco666 said:
Caterham must change the body to keep up, and this gives them the chance to incorporate some modern tech at the same time.
Go drive an R500 and tell us exactly who they need to 'keep up' with.
What 'modern tech' should they incorporate?
Even if they do need to move to a full body there is simply no excuse for the fvcking abysmal design here. Seriously you could go to any industrial design or art college with this brief and get hundreds of great concepts done for free. So the 'problem' is questionable and the the 'solution' is wrong. The 21 was a beautiful design that was a commercial failure. Exactly how many of these things do Caterham think they can sell? I'm not sure how we are missing the point.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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yonex said:
Of course not.

Trouble is most of the comments are coming from people who haven't owned a se7en, which is obviously just bought for its fantastic looks rolleyes
I suspect most of the comments are coming from people with working eyes. It's simply ugly. Other manufacturers have been able to produce quite attractive full bodied 7 clones, so it's surprising that Caterham have managed to make such a fist of this.

Stew2000

2,776 posts

178 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Short launch vid: http://youtu.be/HwJvNqYAJZc
It's not bad. kinda big though.

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

207 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Stew2000 said:
Short launch vid: http://youtu.be/HwJvNqYAJZc
It's not bad. kinda big though.
Thanks for that. It doesn't look quite as bad in a video.

The cross member is silly though. You'd absolutely have to wear a helmet in this car as smacking your face against that wouldn't be very pleasant, which would happen a lot I imagine.


dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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OwenK said:
Oh dear, that's not gone well.

Many have tried to rebody the Seven - and to my knowledge, none have succeeded.
Fisher Fury...

NGK210 said:
From this angle it looks OK:

It does?

cptsideways

13,545 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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If they fitted this with a body that was aerodynamic in its design cues I'd be very interested.

You could make a seven a much much faster car if it did not have the Cd figure of a house & it need not be any heavier at all.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

183 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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Dear Caterham,

Remember how well the twenty one went?

Yours sincerely LK

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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Does anyone know whatever happened to this? Just been rewatching the Top Gear episode it featured in (alongside the 620R and 160). Didn't care for the looks much - yes, the Seven is a dinosaur, but its crucial quality is that it looks friendly. A slot-eyed cyborg was not the solution to the problem. Dare I suggest they look to the Frog-Eye Sprite for inspiration if they want to give Ginetta, or even Mazda, an interesting rival?

NuisanceFactor

289 posts

184 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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It never got beyond this proof-of-concept, which can now be seen in Caterham Cars' Crawley showroom.

TerryThomas

1,228 posts

91 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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Zenos E10?!?

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

183 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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TerryThomas said:
Zenos E10?!?
What he said. smile

https://www.facebook.com/zenoscars/?fref=ts

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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The Zenos has a transverse-mid-mounted engine, though. I presume the A7 is FR like all other Caterhams.