RE: Mitsubishi Evo X FQ 330 SST: Spotted

[WCZ]

8mr > this

wonder how many X 400's they sold?

[don logan]

300bhp/ton said:

I think we are getting muddled up with boost threshold and turbo lag. Boost threshold is the point in the rpm that the turbo can make significant boost. Turbo lag is an event that happens after a stall period, such as lifting off the throttle at 6000rpm to change gear. The sudden reduction in exhaust gas flow means the turbo no longer boosts, despite being within it's operating rpm/boost threshold. When you reapply the throttle there is a lag for the exhaust gas flow rate to increase to levels that significant boost can be made again.

The Evo suffers lag in the same way all turbocharged cars do. Although with higher static CR's and better matched turbo's along with far superior electronics, lag can be minimised, or at least hidden to an extent.

Do you think the SST 330 suffers from lag any more than other turbo engined cars and do you think that an "auto" box helps it?

[Terminator X]

Evo 9 GT for me pls

TX.

[garypotter]

An evo 6 extreme for me as a bit of a rare beast these days

[britsportscars]

A friend had the older MR-FQ360 (I think). It had a very loud anti lag kit and had numerous other alterations. It was so bloody fast and competent, I don't think you'd keep your licence long with one of those. Seriously fast point to point and left my old CTR for dead in all situations.

Is it urban legend that FQ stood for "F**king Quick"? I hope that bit is true

[Captainawesome]

M@1975 said:

Evos and Imprezas were things that I looked at for years but never pulled the trigger on. what killed the evo for me was owning a Skyline and having evo owners tell me that they dreamed of getting MPG figures as good as mine and I was getting 22 on a good day, with a light foot, if I was lucky, and a good wind behind me, some man maths & the occaisional lie to the wife about what it really cost to run.

From personal experience of driving an Evo 7 and a modded R32 GTR back to back they are completely different cars. I bought the Evo as it felt like a ballet dancer compared to the Skyline. Was gutted to be honest as I had always loved Skylines and wanted to love it but it just felt huge and slow compared to the Evo.

I would have an Evo every time. I own an FQ 360 but it is a weekend car. The rate at which the fuel gauge drops (not helped by the tiny tank) is just bloody terrifying. I am usually at the pumps twice in a day when hooning it. Couldn't live with that day to day, and my daily is 475bhp and much better on fuel.

[Limpet]

A work colleague had an 8 FQ-340 that he used as a daily driver. I remember it being one of the few cars I've been in that made me swear out loud when he took me out in it. To this day, I cannot imagine anything at any price being significantly quicker as a point-to-point, real world performance car. So much power, and so capable. The car isn't the limit, it's the balls of the driver, and his or her willingness to disregard the law that determine how quickly you go. Amazing machine.

[rtz62]

Tried one of these at the time I had my Impreza WR1, and stuck with the Impreza.
I thought the Mitsusushi was a terrible bit of kit compared to the hard-wired approach of say a TME Lancer.
26.2mpg?
If my WR1 was anything to go by, it didn't matter if I was playing Morgan Freemans character in 'Driving Miss Daisy', 220 miles was the total range, so this must be similar.
A comment made a few posts earlier, I too had a ur Quattro, and I would rather have that car again than the Impreza or this heap; now there's a car with character, not the fastest, not the ultimate handling car, but just bloody good.

[BrownBottle]

Surprised by all the comments about fuel consumption, I used to average 25mpg in my evo 8.

[Captainawesome]

BrownBottle said:

Surprised by all the comments about fuel consumption, I used to average 25mpg in my evo 8.

I reckon it wouldn't be so bad if the turbo woooooosh wasn't soooooo addictive. I can't stop my self from just nailing the throttle all the time because it makes me giggle. The small fuel tank doesn't help as it gives the impression of needing to fill up more often too.

I drove my old 330 from oxford to Inverness and had to stop 3 times for petrol. Admittedly partly because I was squirting the thing every 10 minutes or so because of my turbo woooooosh addiction.

However, you don't buy a car like this if you are going to worry about miles per gallon...they are about smiles per mile, and in that respect they are class-leaders.

[J4CKO]

I think a few things killed the rally refugees,

The performance is available elsewhere, they arent the all conquering things they once were, the FWD mega hatches caught up and there are so many other options with 5 sec 0-60 times, there are diesels that do 40 MPG that, in the real world arent much slower than a cooking Impreza or Evo,

They made them progressively uglier

Company drivers no longer get to choose as freely

Petrol and VED got more expensive

People now gravitate to more accessible premium brands and the Scooby/Evo image has been tarnished.

Rally link has dwindled.

The rise of the SUV

[don logan]

BrownBottle said:

Surprised by all the comments about fuel consumption, I used to average 25mpg in my evo 8.

I was once in a hurry to get to the channel tunnel in my 6, I lived 110 miles from it, I set off with a full tank and had under a quarter left when I got there!

Also doesn`t help that the fuel gauges are a nonsense! (particularly on Mways)

[Captainawesome]

J4CKO said:

there are diesels that do 40 MPG that, in the real world arent much slower than a cooking Impreza/Evo.

Have you been in an Evo driven properly????? Maybe on paper some of the bigger diesels in gear acceleration times might be similar but in the real world on a twisty bit of road even a mighty remapped 335d could not even hope to keep up on the twisty bits. Evo's are not straight line cars. They are built to go round corners very very very quickly. 'Performance' diesels are not. They are designed to be driven by people who like to brag about in gear acceleration times.

One of my favourite things to do in my Evo is to take passengers out and hit some roundabouts. The speed which an Evo can actually go round corners is something which can scarcely be believed. In fact judging by the passengers brake foot attempting to put a hole in my footwell I don't think they do believe it.

I have a remapped A4 3.0TDI (Mrs car), 280BHP and trust me, you drive that quickly and it won't even touch 40mpg. If you want a performance car, buy a petrol. Any savings made from driving a diesel will soon disappear when your right foot gets heavy.

[richard300]

don logan said:

BrownBottle said:

Surprised by all the comments about fuel consumption, I used to average 25mpg in my evo 8.

I was once in a hurry to get to the channel tunnel in my 6, I lived 110 miles from it, I set off with a full tank and had under a quarter left when I got there!

Also doesn't help that the fuel gauges are a nonsense! (particularly on Mways)

I used to run this as a daily:


OK, it was slightly modified, but it would regularly empty a full tank of Optimax in 100-110 miles

[marshall100]

F1GTRUeno said:

Both companies are in the st now and motorsport is too (especially rallying) so we'll probably never see it's like again.

Rather astonishing, but Subaru are doing rather well:

http://www.subaru-global.com/news.html

While I'm sure production numbers are spanked by nearly ever car company on the planet, somebody must be buying them.......?

[don logan]

richard300 said:

don logan said:

BrownBottle said:

Surprised by all the comments about fuel consumption, I used to average 25mpg in my evo 8.

I was once in a hurry to get to the channel tunnel in my 6, I lived 110 miles from it, I set off with a full tank and had under a quarter left when I got there!

Also doesn't help that the fuel gauges are a nonsense! (particularly on Mways)

I used to run this as a daily:


OK, it was slightly modified, but it would regularly empty a full tank of Optimax in 100-110 miles

I still have mine (from new) and sometimes I look at the gauge and laugh but I laugh because it has also given me pleasure, probably the only other car that did the same thing was an ML63!

Edited to add photo - This is mine, it likes this place

Edited by don logan on Thursday 26th September 14:22

[richard300]

don logan said:

richard300 said:

don logan said:

BrownBottle said:

Surprised by all the comments about fuel consumption, I used to average 25mpg in my evo 8.

I was once in a hurry to get to the channel tunnel in my 6, I lived 110 miles from it, I set off with a full tank and had under a quarter left when I got there!

Also doesn't help that the fuel gauges are a nonsense! (particularly on Mways)

I used to run this as a daily:


OK, it was slightly modified, but it would regularly empty a full tank of Optimax in 100-110 miles

I still have mine (from new) and sometimes I look at the gauge and laugh but I laugh because it has also given me pleasure, probably the only other car that did the same thing was an ML63!

I bought the one pictured, 11 or 12 years ago, when they were a relative rarity (Purchased it as a grey import but with a full Red Zebra Warranty)from Brighton Mitsubishi - who i have to say, gave me some of the best customer service i have ever had. They didnt void the warranty with the modifications, and introduced me to lots of MLR events.

I absolutely look back on the car with fond memories (sadly i sold it to a friend who promptly wrote it off) and to think that you can pick a well sorted one up for as little as £5-6K now, makes them a real performance bargain. Provided you can deal with the 6k service intervals and the fuel economy - But as a toy they make a lot of sense.

Edited by richard300 on Thursday 26th September 14:23

[bobberz]

I'm in no way a Japanese car fan, but you just can't ignore the real-world performance these things have. I liked the Evo X; it looked fantastic compared to the fantastically ugly WRX of the time.

My one major issue I have with Evos is I haven't heard a single one that sounds good. They just sound like overgrown, lower-revving, sport bike engines and are usually equipped with those Folger's Coffee fart cans, which makes them sound even worse.

By comparison, the Subarus have a lovely sound, almost like a V8 at times.

So, I don't think I could have either since it's a choice of good looks and crap sound, or lovely sound and crap looks.

[RINGMEISTER]

The trouble with these later Evos and Imprezas was that they were trying to be all things to all men, instead of sticking to what they knew best. I still think the Evo 6 TME and Impreza P1 are their respective pinnacles.

[framerateuk]

It's possible too that Subaru realised that a lot of their target audience were getting older and they adjusted the cars to compensate.

I mean, the current Imprezas are definitely more comfortable and refined than the old ones. It's the same story with every manufacturer though. Everything has more toys and weight on board now anyway.