Swarm of Bikers & Rangerover - 0 dead multiple hits...

[trickywoo]

Is it just me or is this 'they should all be killed' posting a little pointless?

[Rawwr]

keegs111 said:

Shame a few more didn't get taken out, the RR driver is the victim here

No, it's a shame the whole incident happened. Wishing for more people to get hurt, on whichever side you perceive them to be on, is tragic and spiteful.

[martin mrt]

Purity14 said:

martin mrt said:

It highlights the mob mentality, and safety in numbers, those bikers were out to hurt someone, and knew that there was very little risk of personal injury to themselves other than being knocked off their bikes. Which is what every one of them deserved.

I was bullied at school, and it was always by a group, never an individual, it's why my opinion of this incident is biased towards the range rover driver being the victim and not the dead biker

The bikers got out of bed this morning, said "I know, lets go out and HURT someone today." - yeah okay!

Or maybe things happened, and stuff escalated. We don't know what happened, they did deal with it badly, but no one deserves to die.



But any animal backed into a corner and fearing danger will react like that, range rover or not.

I didn't imply that he did get out of bed and have that thought, it would be foolish to think any of them did.

After whatever happened initially (that's the important bit) those bikers were out to intimidate and hurt the guy in the range rover, that's blatantly obvious from early on in the video, and as one of them died in the crossfire. Anyone on a bike folkish enough to try and force a range rover (or any car) in a similar situation is on a hiding to nowhere

[Rawwr]

phil1979 said:

Bikers in supergay pack mentality - who'da thunk it?

A moron would.

[Sargeant Orange]

The guy just needed to whack it into reverse at the end and get out of there and call the police to assist. At that stage he was in a no win situation so didn't have much to lose

[anonymous-user]

Purity14 said:

The bikers got out of bed this morning, said "I know, lets go out and HURT someone today." - yeah okay!

Imagine being surrounded by this mob. You have your kids in the car.

What would you do?

[Bullett]

Evoluzione said:

he could have been a gangland boss, drug dealer etc....

Even if he was you'd surely be less likely to mess with him? Those people don't mess around.

Looks like something happened to p the bikers off.
White bike brake checked him and got punted off.
Words are exchanged
Then....

It's likely the RR felt threatened (sheer numbers would do that) but being America maybe someone pulled a gun?

[chryslerben]

What's the view like up there on that high chair?

[Liokault]

SteveSteveson said:

Frankly, as a biker myself, they white bike got what he deserved. Brake checking a car, especially one that big, on a sports bike, is going to get you killed.
[/footnote]

But it wasn’t the brake check that got him killed. The RR stopped without impact (I think, it’s hard to tell). The RR made the choice to ride over the biker(s).

In a country that allows you to shot a person in self defence, I think the guy in the RR has a firm case.

[tim2100]

I think there is something more to the story. The bikers / Rangerover driver had a previous background IMO. I do feel for the RR driver as with that many people around he would have known that if he had allowed them to get to him he would be history, as shown at the end of the video.

If it had been me I would have driven straight to nearest police station with horn on constantly.

[phil1979]

Rawwr said:

phil1979 said:

Bikers in supergay pack mentality - who'da thunk it?

A moron would.

Fair enough. I'm disliking bikes at the moment, due to a small pack of knobends using our local roads as some sort of 'knee-down' trophy track, every other night, circa 3-4am. Wakes everyone up, inc toddler and baby, and there's fk all anyone can do about it. Thinking about buying a Rangie now.

[Codswallop]

yonex said:

Imagine being surrounded by this mob. You have your kids in the car.

What would you do?

I wouldn't do anything to wind up other road users, or do anything that might lead to a confrontation in the first place.

To many what if's in this thread. Too many people jumping to conclusions without knowing the full facts. Too many people wishing harm onto others.

Very sad state of affairs.

[Chim]

Purity14 said:

trickywoo said:

Is it just me or is this 'they should all be killed' posting a little pointless?

+1

The "I think they all deserve to die" attitude is actually quite worrying.

I think from the posts I have read that people are stating that they are surprised more did not die due the situation they put themselves in not that they deserved to die. It is surprising that the range rover driver did not do more to get these idiots of his tail to be honest and as per the comment when he was finally stopped, I think I would have slammed into reverse and ran over what ever was in my way as well.

Edited by Chim on Monday 30th September 11:33

[Paul O]

We need to know the backstory really. Did they have reason to stop him - had the bikers just witness a kidnapping, or a major drug transaction? Extreme examples, but we don't know ... yet.

However, if there is no back story and just a bunch of yobs who thought their group mentality to stop a random stranger in his car would be a good idea, then they got what was coming to them.

I'd have filled my pants too and done exactly the same as the guy in the RR. The only difference being I'd have not stopped and would have been calling 999 at the same time in some panic ridden state.

I'm sure the story will come out soon enough, watching with interest.

Oh - and why the fek did he not lock his doors???!?!!!??!!!

Edited by Paul O on Monday 30th September 11:36

[Rawwr]

phil1979 said:

Fair enough. I'm disliking bikes at the moment, due to a small pack of knobends using our local roads as some sort of 'knee-down' trophy track, every other night, circa 3-4am. Wakes everyone up, inc toddler and baby, and there's fk all anyone can do about it. Thinking about buying a Rangie now.

Have you considered the police or are you just going to resort straight to murder?

[gubbabump]

just speculating, what about if the driver of RR had done something horrendous initially - kidnapped someone, just robbed, killed etc, and the bikers were hunting him down for X reason - it certainly takes something pretty serious initially to get it to that stage - regardless - the person dead was till someone's dad, bro etc etc. if it was over something pointless then its a sad end, as I fear several lives have been ruined.

[Garlick]

There is a beginning and end to this clip that we didn't see. Without that information it's hard to make any judgement.

Clever editing or is this really all that happened? I suspect the former, although that doesn't change the shocking outcome.

[C900]

If I had been stopped like that by a large number of motorcyclists, and felt threatened (who wouldn't, in that situation?), I'd likely take off like the Range Rover driver. And then go directly to the nearest police station.

[s3fella]

My mate in NYC says that this started as a minor traffic collision with the range rover clipping the side of a bike as it changed lanes, biker stayed on but got a bit of a thunk. RR driver then wouldn't stop, white biker tried to stop him and he hit the white bike, but rider stayed on (I think this is where the vid sorts of begins) and you see the rest.


If that is true, then RR driver should've stopped, at the first incident IMO. I think the mob ting escalates due to his refusal to stop, and the driving through and knocking off bikers, IMO, takes it too far. Once he's done that, he's up set a large group of bikers, to then run into another bike and rider again is ridiculous.

I'm also wondering what the rr driver was thinking! the second time they stopped him and the guy ran back toward the car! the biker manages to open the door!! Surely if you were of any sort of normal compus mentus you'd have locked the doors??

I'm in two minds over this, if this began as a simple fender bender or not even that, and ended up with a motorcyclist dead, lots of damage and a mob kicking the st out or a driver, it would seem to be a very sad chain of events.

[martin mrt]

Purity14 said:

martin mrt said:

I didn't imply that he did get out of bed and have that thought, it would be foolish to think any of them did.

After whatever happened initially (that's the important bit) those bikers were out to intimidate and hurt the guy in the range rover, that's blatantly obvious from early on in the video, and as one of them died in the crossfire. Anyone on a bike folkish enough to try and force a range rover (or any car) in a similar situation is on a hiding to nowhere

But do they deserve to die?

Deserve to die? Possibly not, however he was part of that mob and I have zero sympathy or compassion for anyone injured or killed in such circumstances

Did the range rover driver deserve to be intimidated and beaten into a coma?