Swarm of Bikers & Rangerover - 0 dead multiple hits...

[Chim]

gubbabump said:

just speculating, what about if the driver of RR had done something horrendous initially - kidnapped someone, just robbed, killed etc, and the bikers were hunting him down for X reason - it certainly takes something pretty serious initially to get it to that stage - regardless - the person dead was till someone's dad, bro etc etc. if it was over something pointless then its a sad end, as I fear several lives have been ruined.

I believe there is a little thing called a police force in America for this sort of thing

[DoubleSix]

Might be better off maintaining a constant 10-12mph, unlikely to cause death but hard to stop a RR that wants to keep moving...

Stamping the throttle was a bit dim, unless someone pointed a weapon.

[s3fella]

phil1979 said:

Bikers in supergay pack mentality - who'da thunk it?

What's wrong with being gay? It's 2013, fella.

[gubbabump]

Chim said:

gubbabump said:

just speculating, what about if the driver of RR had done something horrendous initially - kidnapped someone, just robbed, killed etc, and the bikers were hunting him down for X reason - it certainly takes something pretty serious initially to get it to that stage - regardless - the person dead was till someone's dad, bro etc etc. if it was over something pointless then its a sad end, as I fear several lives have been ruined.

I believe we there is a little thing called a police force in America for this sort of thing

im by no means condoling anything - just adding a diff input, thanks for yours

[Chim]

s3fella said:

My mate in NYC says that this started as a minor traffic collision with the range rover clipping the side of a bike as it changed lanes, biker stayed on but got a bit of a thunk. RR driver then wouldn't stop, white biker tried to stop him and he hit the white bike, but rider stayed on (I think this is where the vid sorts of begins) and you see the rest.


If that is true, then RR driver should've stopped, at the first incident IMO. I think the mob ting escalates due to his refusal to stop, and the driving through and knocking off bikers, IMO, takes it too far. Once he's done that, he's up set a large group of bikers, to then run into another bike and rider again is ridiculous.

I'm also wondering what the rr driver was thinking! the second time they stopped him and the guy ran back toward the car! the biker manages to open the door!! Surely if you were of any sort of normal compus mentus you'd have locked the doors??

I'm in two minds over this, if this began as a simple fender bender or not even that, and ended up with a motorcyclist dead, lots of damage and a mob kicking the st out or a driver, it would seem to be a very sad chain of events.

What looks in the region of 100 bikers bearing down on you and and you expect the guy stop for a sensible conversation

[10 Pence Short]

My first thought at the end of the vid was surprise that the RR driver didn't have and use a gun.

Had that incident happened in South Africa I imagine there'd be a pile of terminated power rangers and a dead RR driver.

[Garlick]

s3fella said:

phil1979 said:

Bikers in supergay pack mentality - who'da thunk it?

What's wrong with being gay? It's 2013, fella.

Gay is fine.

He has an issue (it seems) with supergay

[SteveSteveson]

Liokault said:

SteveSteveson said:

Frankly, as a biker myself, they white bike got what he deserved. Brake checking a car, especially one that big, on a sports bike, is going to get you killed.
[/footnote]

But it wasn’t the brake check that got him killed. The RR stopped without impact (I think, it’s hard to tell). The RR made the choice to ride over the biker(s).

In a country that allows you to shot a person in self defence, I think the guy in the RR has a firm case.

I assumed he hit him. If he ran over him there is no need to do that. Lock your doors and keep moving at low speed if you feel in danger.

[Rawwr]

Chim said:

What looks in the region of 100 bikers bearing down on you and and you expect the guy stop for a sensible conversation

I guess we'll never know as he didn't stop to find out.

[phil1979]

Rawwr said:

Have you considered the police or are you just going to resort straight to murder?

The police can't really do anything. These dudes are going for it properly quick, doing a few 'laps', and buggering off, I dare say to the next location. The rural police round my area, especially the sort of time this is happening, don't really stand a chance. Plus, by the time you've got your bearings, calmed the kids, found your phone, they've gone - just no point in calling the police and wasting their time. It must be affecting loads of people, though, as we're on one of those newbuild estates in the countryside outside the larger towns.

[George7]

The fact that the beginning of the confrontation is cut out, as well as the end leads me to think that the bikers were the main instigators. If the RR driver had done something stupid, surely the person recording would've included that. It'll be interesting to see how this develops, but I think the RR driver is the victim here.

[Chim]

gubbabump said:

Chim said:

gubbabump said:

just speculating, what about if the driver of RR had done something horrendous initially - kidnapped someone, just robbed, killed etc, and the bikers were hunting him down for X reason - it certainly takes something pretty serious initially to get it to that stage - regardless - the person dead was till someone's dad, bro etc etc. if it was over something pointless then its a sad end, as I fear several lives have been ruined.

I believe we there is a little thing called a police force in America for this sort of thing

im by no means condoling anything - just adding a diff input, thanks for yours

Soz, reading that back it did sound a bit smart arsed, did not mean to be

[s3fella]

Ah, presumably 'the caped' variety.

[Rawwr]

phil1979 said:

The police can't really do anything. These dudes are going for it properly quick, doing a few 'laps', and buggering off, I dare say to the next location. The rural police round my area, especially the sort of time this is happening, don't really stand a chance. Plus, by the time you've got your bearings, calmed the kids, found your phone, they've gone - just no point in calling the police and wasting their time. It must be affecting loads of people, though, as we're on one of those newbuild estates in the countryside outside the larger towns.

So you've never spoken to the police about it? Even though it happens all the time?

[Magog]

Any links to a news story yet, seeing as it's all over the internet I expect it to be a Daily Mail top story on the next half hour or so.

[Chim]

Magog said:

Any links to a news story yet, seeing as it's all over the internet I expect it to be a Daily Mail top story on the next half hour or so.

Give them a minute, they will need to ensure that they get their facts straight before publishing anything.

[VolvoT5]

To be honest I think I might have done the same if my car was suddenly surrounded by a large group of angry bikers.... who wouldn't feel intimidated and be nervous about sitting around for a friendly chat?

But once the adrenalin kicks in who knows how any of us would respond.

[anonymous-user]

Magog said:

Any links to a news story yet, seeing as it's all over the internet I expect it to be a Daily Mail top story on the next half hour or so.

Waiting for the Daily Wail headlines. I am sure it will be as well balanced as always.

[phil1979]

Rawwr said:

So you've never spoken to the police about it? Even though it happens all the time?

In short, no. With a four week old providing my recent entertainment, I've barely done anything apart from try to sleep and wash soiled clothes, but each time I get woken I promise myself I will get round to that call. And shaving. And maybe having a shower. I like to keep time for PH, mind .

[s3fella]

Chim said:

s3fella said:

My mate in NYC says that this started as a minor traffic collision with the range rover clipping the side of a bike as it changed lanes, biker stayed on but got a bit of a thunk. RR driver then wouldn't stop, white biker tried to stop him and he hit the white bike, but rider stayed on (I think this is where the vid sorts of begins) and you see the rest.


If that is true, then RR driver should've stopped, at the first incident IMO. I think the mob ting escalates due to his refusal to stop, and the driving through and knocking off bikers, IMO, takes it too far. Once he's done that, he's up set a large group of bikers, to then run into another bike and rider again is ridiculous.

I'm also wondering what the rr driver was thinking! the second time they stopped him and the guy ran back toward the car! the biker manages to open the door!! Surely if you were of any sort of normal compus mentus you'd have locked the doors??

I'm in two minds over this, if this began as a simple fender bender or not even that, and ended up with a motorcyclist dead, lots of damage and a mob kicking the st out or a driver, it would seem to be a very sad chain of events.

What looks in the region of 100 bikers bearing down on you and and you expect the guy stop for a sensible conversation

The law would suggest he has to, yes. And what would 100 bikers do to a chap who's clipped a biker, but caused minimal if any damage and a minor injury? You really think he shouldn't stop.
Accidents happen, all road users know this. You have to stop and exchange details, them's the rules.