RE: God bless the V8! PH Blog

RE: God bless the V8! PH Blog

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Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Saturday 5th October 2013
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f328nvl said:
davidsfox said:
I'm very surprised by the comments of creaks and rattles, not heard any in my Dad's.

Very jealous of the fact you have had both the M3 and now the 507! Hope you enjoy it.
To be honest this is the commonest criticism of the car, go over to MBClub and there's pages on it. The suspension is so hard it shakes everything just a little bit loose, mine rattles round the speedo at the moment, but the Mercedes people will sort it, or else....
Interesting. Does the suspension really need to be that hard?

We have two almost identical cars in the family (BMW Minis); one has a harder ride due to large wheels and runflats and as a result, the other can be pedalled much faster along real (read= with an appalling surface) UK B-roads and is the preferred car for a longer distance despite being of lower spec.

mackie1

8,153 posts

233 months

Saturday 5th October 2013
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I really don't think the suspension is that hard, it rides better than pretty much any "sporty" car I've ever had IMO. I do have the 18 inch wheels though.

ghibbett

1,901 posts

185 months

Saturday 5th October 2013
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Suspension is not that hard. There is, however, a big difference between 18" and 19" wheel ride quality. For comparison, my C63 on 18"s rides better than my old E46 330i Sport (saloon) on 18"s.

As for running in, Ii collected my car with 12 miles on the odo. By 25 miles it had already been to 7000 rpm. Over the next couple of hundred miles I took it fairly easy - more for the gearbox, differential & brakes - but after that used the full performance (when the engine was warm). My oil consumption has been 1 litre in 7000 miles. At 2000 miles, I put my car on a rolling road. At the same event another chap put his 20k miler C63 on the same dyno. Mine was more powerful. Interesting stuff!

pSyCoSiS

3,597 posts

205 months

Saturday 5th October 2013
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C63s are absolutely epic cars.

My Jaguar specialist's son just bought an 09-plate black one.

Looks stealth and the sound it makes when you fire it up makes you cream your pants!

Long live the V8 AMGs.

pSyCoSiS

3,597 posts

205 months

Saturday 5th October 2013
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Pittsy98 said:
I picked up my new C63 coupe 507 Edition last Friday. I too have a big V8 grin on my face, unfortunately I am only a third of the way through the 1000mile run-in period. I can't go above 85mph, can't go above 4500rpm, can't use full throttle and have to build the load slowly. It's so frustrating, but a lovely thought to know that in a couple of weeks I can unleash it! Can't wait... anyone fancy a few laps of the M25?
I'll join you in my 600!

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Saturday 5th October 2013
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mackie1 said:
I really don't think the suspension is that hard, it rides better than pretty much any "sporty" car I've ever had IMO. I do have the 18 inch wheels though.
ghibbett said:
Suspension is not that hard. There is, however, a big difference between 18" and 19" wheel ride quality. For comparison, my C63 on 18"s rides better than my old E46 330i Sport (saloon) on 18"s.
Sounds good! - I own an E46 320i Sport (same suspension / wheels as above) and although it's firm, I don't find it excessive. If the C63 is slightly softer, it'd be absolutely fine for me. smile

I've not driven one but the only thing that I'm 100% sure would irritate me would be the parking brake...but then, it wouldn't be a Mercedes without some quirky (awkward) switchgear!

gumsie

680 posts

209 months

Saturday 5th October 2013
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Krikkit said:
Better be a bit more descriptive there, this is PH you know?!
The bass is so intense and so smooth it's almost as if they've poored double cream in yours ears.

Steven2mum

69 posts

144 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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GregMVF4 said:
I bought one of these this time last year (not a 507, a C63 with the PP). It's absolutely staggering. Not had any probs with DAB, works fine on the stations I tend to listen to (most BBC, Heart, Kiss, Capital). iPhone doesn't work for inter web access, but does for all choons and calls (it even reads texts out to you).
Took delivery of C63 Saloon 1st September and this connects to internet with iPhone.

Steven2mum

69 posts

144 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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GregMVF4 said:
I bought one of these this time last year (not a 507, a C63 with the PP). It's absolutely staggering. Not had any probs with DAB, works fine on the stations I tend to listen to (most BBC, Heart, Kiss, Capital). iPhone doesn't work for inter web access, but does for all choons and calls (it even reads texts out to you).
Took delivery of C63 Saloon 1st September and this connects to internet with iPhone.

Steven2mum

69 posts

144 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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GregMVF4 said:
I bought one of these this time last year (not a 507, a C63 with the PP). It's absolutely staggering. Not had any probs with DAB, works fine on the stations I tend to listen to (most BBC, Heart, Kiss, Capital). iPhone doesn't work for inter web access, but does for all choons and calls (it even reads texts out to you).
Took delivery of C63 Saloon 1st September and this connects to internet with iPhone.

cramorra

1,665 posts

235 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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This is the best allround car ever- almost comfy when you want it to, mine (sliver/black 10 ppp car)stealth enough to take my parents out without scaring them - but in sports when you floor it... OMG
I remember the colleague who said "why did you swap you CLS for the repmobile" when I gave him a lift home the other day - short blip on the loud pedal - has not spoken with me since hehe...

Ruaraidh_Gamma

69 posts

219 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Ruaraidh_Gamma said:
If you don't let the engine bed, it will really drink oil!!
Yep, and treating any engine too gently during the break-in period is a sure-fire way to ensure it drinks excessive oil for the rest of its life.
I know how to run an engine in chap! The point I was replying to said that to thrash the engine from new was the best way to run it in. Which it's not.

Where did I say baby the engine? In fact I didn't give any instructions on how to bed it, just that it needed it. If you had a new C63, you'd know the recommended method is inside the screen....

The best way to bed an engine is varying speeds and loads gradually increasing those as distance moves on. Same way as you break an engine in on a dyno.

The main point of the C63 is that they ALL use oil for the first 10k or so (use google) and that the bedding procedure is mainly there for the transmission and the diff.

mackie1

8,153 posts

233 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Steven2mum said:
Took delivery of C63 Saloon 1st September and this connects to internet with iPhone.
I was told they were working on a fix but I wonder if it's software only or if the hardware is revised. Worth asking the dealer I guess.

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

282 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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swerni said:
Fixed that for you wink
That puny 505hp engine? Pfuh :-p

TomM

662 posts

195 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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I had the pleasure of spending an hour in a brand new C63 Saloon on Saturday and MB World, with Tom Ingram as my instructor (2013 Ginetta champion and 2014 BTCC driver) The first 30 minutes is spent learning about the car and its capabilities, this includes straight line acceleration and braking, in the dry and wet. It also includes time on the skid pan drifting with varying levels of TC (C, S and S+)and showing how each one steps in and at which point, this was hugely impressive. Braking from 40 mph in the wet with no hands on the wheel the car stayed absolutely straight and true, thanks to brakes being applied as required to keep it in line by the on board computer.

The next 30 mins is spent hooning it around the rather small but twisty track, getting progressively faster with tips and pointers form the instructor and the last 2 laps where absolutely superb, my run was last on the day so track was empty and Tom was encouraging me all the way.

I went to do this as I will soon be in the market for one, and wanted to make sure I liked it before buying. I now want one so bad its ridiculous. The car is quiet and refined in C mode, and I can see it genuinely being a great everyday car - which is handy as that's how I am selling it to the wife. I had a B7 S4 4.2 V8 Saloon which was quick, but ultimately boring as so sure footed - the C63 felt very similar at low speed in C mode, but once tickled and in S or S+ its a very, very different car and an absolute monster.

As for the reported niggles with DAB and iphone - I honestly could not care less about anything like that, I just dont need them and that really isn't why I am buying one.

I wanted one before based on reviews, looks, noise - now having driven one I honestly cant wait. Just got to get a small inconvenience of a wedding out of the way first, although I have already been looking at reducing the number of guests to allow me to get the C63 quicker.

LAK

61 posts

284 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Timely thread. Just picked up a used C63 Wagon to replace my company car Mini Clubman Cooper S (company has reduced new cars to under 130 CO2 which means a clear opt out of the scheme for a petrol head!). Not using it every day until Mini goes back in less than a month but am using it today and I love it. Drive and have raced a variety of fast / powerful cars and can honestly say this ticks all the boxes. Lovely to look at, nice size, very comfortable, can pootle around or drive with a little more urgency. Mine has 19" wheels (classic black and black look) and I don't find it too firm at all - takes speed bumps well and doesn't bang and crash like my Mini on bigger wheels. Can see this car being a keeper and a nice compliment to husband's X5 4.6is and '65 TVR Griffith race car (amongst others we own...)