Ferrari 355 Accident "Cold Tyres"
Discussion
Daniel1 said:
TobyLaRohne said:
I'm with the OP on this. s
t happens, the salesman is probably the safest driver in the office to hand some car keys to now.
He made a silly mistake, we all do it from time to time. Nobody was hurt in this case so you could chalk it up to a very expensive lesson to the salesman.
There might be the added bonus that the OP will also now be in the good graces of the dealership for doing them a favour, (I'd be sure to let them know that too).
With regards to the widow, well, things turned out rosy for her, she sold the car (well, the dealership/salesman will have bought it) and she probably got paid asking price to avoid any questions.
IMO this is the way things like this should be handled, none of the looking for any opportunity to screw your fellow man over.
Of course, had someone been hurt then that would be completely different.
+1 to that. No need to go looking for a pound of flesh. t happens, the salesman is probably the safest driver in the office to hand some car keys to now. He made a silly mistake, we all do it from time to time. Nobody was hurt in this case so you could chalk it up to a very expensive lesson to the salesman.
There might be the added bonus that the OP will also now be in the good graces of the dealership for doing them a favour, (I'd be sure to let them know that too).
With regards to the widow, well, things turned out rosy for her, she sold the car (well, the dealership/salesman will have bought it) and she probably got paid asking price to avoid any questions.
IMO this is the way things like this should be handled, none of the looking for any opportunity to screw your fellow man over.
Of course, had someone been hurt then that would be completely different.
MissChief said:
veevee said:
Tyres get warm just from driving. Very very basic physics. You don't have to spin the wheels for them to get warm!
I'm sure they do, but do they get hot enough and is the tyre and rubber compound actually affected by the heat in such a way that it gives more grip? I don't believe that to be the case.TooLateForAName said:
MissChief said:
Prof Prolapse said:
I don't understand why you think the physics of friction and heat doesn't apply to car tyres.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think it's a point that needs to be argued.
A car tyre has a much larger surface area and so requires a lot more friction and heat to warm the tyre up. All the forces on a bike tyre are being passed through a contact patch smaller than a credit card. On a car, in normal use I just don't believe there's enough friction to warm a car tyre up enough that it makes any detectable difference.We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think it's a point that needs to be argued.
I had PZeros on a porsche for a while and it was very noticeable that the grip through the set of bends on the approach to the village was much worse setting off on a cold morning compared to the return journey at any time. The michelin PS/2 that replaced them were far better but still noticeable.
MissChief said:
A car tyre has a much larger surface area and so requires a lot more friction and heat to warm the tyre up. All the forces on a bike tyre are being passed through a contact patch smaller than a credit card. On a car, in normal use I just don't believe there's enough friction to warm a car tyre up enough that it makes any detectable difference.
Have you never touched a tyre after a drive?MissChief said:
Prof Prolapse said:
I don't understand why you think the physics of friction and heat doesn't apply to car tyres.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think it's a point that needs to be argued.
A car tyre has a much larger surface area and so requires a lot more friction and heat to warm the tyre up. All the forces on a bike tyre are being passed through a contact patch smaller than a credit card. On a car, in normal use I just don't believe there's enough friction to warm a car tyre up enough that it makes any detectable difference.We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think it's a point that needs to be argued.
The difference in tyre temperature has a big affect on grip. That's why winter tyres work so much better than summer tyre in winter. They have been designed to work best lower temperatures.
Do you watch F1? They warm the tyres before fitting them to a car.
Edited by 98elise on Thursday 10th October 09:21
MX7 said:
Have you never touched a tyre after a drive?
You also have to consider the temperature of the road surface, plus heat transfer from the braking system, plus the compound used to make the tyre and the tread pattern and the tyre pressure itself. All of these will affect how the tyre behaves.Sometimes when you read a story on here you can't help but think it is fantasy.
Three months before you decide to say anything about it on here, no evidence or witnesses to say it actually happened, the sales guy was not sacked because he has to pay the garage £40k for the car.
How did the garage explain it to the deceased's widow? I mean she must have wondered where his Ferrari had gone. Did the garage pay her the £40k and told her it was sold?
All seems a bit iffy to me.
But then again maybe it's me.
Three months before you decide to say anything about it on here, no evidence or witnesses to say it actually happened, the sales guy was not sacked because he has to pay the garage £40k for the car.
How did the garage explain it to the deceased's widow? I mean she must have wondered where his Ferrari had gone. Did the garage pay her the £40k and told her it was sold?
All seems a bit iffy to me.
But then again maybe it's me.
Monkeylegend said:
Sometimes when you read a story on here you can't help but think it is fantasy.
Three months before you decide to say anything about it on here, no evidence or witnesses to say it actually happened, the sales guy was not sacked because he has to pay the garage £40k for the car.
How did the garage explain it to the deceased's widow? I mean she must have wondered where his Ferrari had gone. Did the garage pay her the £40k and told her it was sold?
All seems a bit iffy to me.
But then again maybe it's me.
It's definitely not you. With the greatest of respect to the OP, he also doesn't sound like the average 355/348 buyer. Nor does the salesman sound like the average Ferrari dealer, thank Christ.Three months before you decide to say anything about it on here, no evidence or witnesses to say it actually happened, the sales guy was not sacked because he has to pay the garage £40k for the car.
How did the garage explain it to the deceased's widow? I mean she must have wondered where his Ferrari had gone. Did the garage pay her the £40k and told her it was sold?
All seems a bit iffy to me.
But then again maybe it's me.
Sticks. said:
mercfunder said:
folos said:
If this is real,
Probably the most pertinent post on here.I could tell you about the time I crashed my McLaren F1. It would be made up b
ks (because I've not crashed it yet 
) but it's happened to someone. Pistom said:
Sticks. said:
mercfunder said:
folos said:
If this is real,
Probably the most pertinent post on here.I could tell you about the time I crashed my McLaren F1. It would be made up b
ks (because I've not crashed it yet ) but it's happened to someone. And then offer them counselling
Actus Reus said:
Monkeylegend said:
Sometimes when you read a story on here you can't help but think it is fantasy.
Three months before you decide to say anything about it on here, no evidence or witnesses to say it actually happened, the sales guy was not sacked because he has to pay the garage £40k for the car.
How did the garage explain it to the deceased's widow? I mean she must have wondered where his Ferrari had gone. Did the garage pay her the £40k and told her it was sold?
All seems a bit iffy to me.
But then again maybe it's me.
It's definitely not you. With the greatest of respect to the OP, he also doesn't sound like the average 355/348 buyer. Nor does the salesman sound like the average Ferrari dealer, thank Christ.Three months before you decide to say anything about it on here, no evidence or witnesses to say it actually happened, the sales guy was not sacked because he has to pay the garage £40k for the car.
How did the garage explain it to the deceased's widow? I mean she must have wondered where his Ferrari had gone. Did the garage pay her the £40k and told her it was sold?
All seems a bit iffy to me.
But then again maybe it's me.
98elise said:
Actus Reus said:
Monkeylegend said:
Sometimes when you read a story on here you can't help but think it is fantasy.
Three months before you decide to say anything about it on here, no evidence or witnesses to say it actually happened, the sales guy was not sacked because he has to pay the garage £40k for the car.
How did the garage explain it to the deceased's widow? I mean she must have wondered where his Ferrari had gone. Did the garage pay her the £40k and told her it was sold?
All seems a bit iffy to me.
But then again maybe it's me.
It's definitely not you. With the greatest of respect to the OP, he also doesn't sound like the average 355/348 buyer. Nor does the salesman sound like the average Ferrari dealer, thank Christ.Three months before you decide to say anything about it on here, no evidence or witnesses to say it actually happened, the sales guy was not sacked because he has to pay the garage £40k for the car.
How did the garage explain it to the deceased's widow? I mean she must have wondered where his Ferrari had gone. Did the garage pay her the £40k and told her it was sold?
All seems a bit iffy to me.
But then again maybe it's me.
Check his spelling of foilage
Edited by Monkeylegend on Thursday 10th October 09:32
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