Fords 1.0 eco-boost engine

Fords 1.0 eco-boost engine

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Northernchimp

1,282 posts

133 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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I can see it being awful on fuel if at all pushed.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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40mpg on a motorway run is really pretty poor, all things considered. I get around 38mpg out of a 10 year old mondeo-sized car with a 1.8 litre engine...

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

133 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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I'd expect 40 I think, 35 at 90.

I've had a car with the 1.6 common rail VAG diesel by the way - nowhere near as frugal as you'd think. The variance to the published figure is criminal. 45 in a small car (105 BHP variant, I'd expect the lower powered ones to be worse). It's such a shame VAG don't offer a 6 speed manual with that engine. You might as well have a 1.2 TSI.

Dblue

3,254 posts

201 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Northernchimp said:
I'd expect 40 I think, 35 at 90.

I've had a car with the 1.6 common rail VAG diesel by the way - nowhere near as frugal as you'd think. The variance to the published figure is criminal. 45 in a small car (105 BHP variant, I'd expect the lower powered ones to be worse). It's such a shame VAG don't offer a 6 speed manual with that engine. You might as well have a 1.2 TSI.
The 1.6 is less economical than the 2.0 despite official figures saying otherwise. I got 46 mpg over 2 years in the 1.6 and am getting a rather impressive 56mpg out of the 2.0TDi that replaced it. Identical use for both. Fact is the 2.0 just doesn't have to work as hard.

DervVW

2,223 posts

140 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Northernchimp said:
I'd expect 40 I think, 35 at 90.

I've had a car with the 1.6 common rail VAG diesel by the way - nowhere near as frugal as you'd think. The variance to the published figure is criminal. 45 in a small car (105 BHP variant, I'd expect the lower powered ones to be worse). It's such a shame VAG don't offer a 6 speed manual with that engine. You might as well have a 1.2 TSI.
I think they do in the SEAT Toledo

john2443

6,348 posts

212 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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I hired a Focus a couple of weeks ago, not sure which engine, but it was absolutely gutless - 13 plate with 7000m.

I'm used to driving a 1.9TD which will accelerate OK in top from low revs, the Focus on a similar hill needed to be dropped into 3rd and thrashed to get any acceleration.

Average MPG was about 40 which I'd have been pleased with if the car was quick, but with that performance it would have had to be doing 70 or 80 mpg before I would want to buy one, as I can get 55 easily out of the diesel.

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

133 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Dblue said:
Northernchimp said:
I'd expect 40 I think, 35 at 90.

I've had a car with the 1.6 common rail VAG diesel by the way - nowhere near as frugal as you'd think. The variance to the published figure is criminal. 45 in a small car (105 BHP variant, I'd expect the lower powered ones to be worse). It's such a shame VAG don't offer a 6 speed manual with that engine. You might as well have a 1.2 TSI.
The 1.6 is less economical than the 2.0 despite official figures saying otherwise. I got 46 mpg over 2 years in the 1.6 and am getting a rather impressive 56mpg out of the 2.0TDi that replaced it. Identical use for both. Fact is the 2.0 just doesn't have to work as hard.
Identical experience. Ran the 1.6 for 2 years, replaced six weeks ago with the same car except in 2.0 guise. Much better MPG.

DervVW

2,223 posts

140 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Northernchimp said:
Dblue said:
Northernchimp said:
I'd expect 40 I think, 35 at 90.

I've had a car with the 1.6 common rail VAG diesel by the way - nowhere near as frugal as you'd think. The variance to the published figure is criminal. 45 in a small car (105 BHP variant, I'd expect the lower powered ones to be worse). It's such a shame VAG don't offer a 6 speed manual with that engine. You might as well have a 1.2 TSI.
The 1.6 is less economical than the 2.0 despite official figures saying otherwise. I got 46 mpg over 2 years in the 1.6 and am getting a rather impressive 56mpg out of the 2.0TDi that replaced it. Identical use for both. Fact is the 2.0 just doesn't have to work as hard.
Identical experience. Ran the 1.6 for 2 years, replaced six weeks ago with the same car except in 2.0 guise. Much better MPG.
Just for refrence I think* the 2.0PD gets about the same as the 1.6CR in the long term running...


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Northernchimp

1,282 posts

133 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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It's much better at motorway speeds though, broadly the same everywhere else in my (albeit limited) experience. It's also much nicer to drive.

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

136 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Have driven the 1.0 125 in the Focus, was very impressed and has plenty of overtaking power. The 100 feels a bit underpowered I'm told.

ratcaddy

6 posts

127 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Awesome engine!

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Currently averaging 54mpg in my 100bhp Fiesta.

J4CKO

41,680 posts

201 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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hora said:
davepoth said:
40mpg on a motorway run is really pretty poor, all things considered. I get around 38mpg out of a 10 year old mondeo-sized car with a 1.8 litre engine...
I kinda agree- My av. in the C1 is c35mpg. In my old 05 Subaru Legacy sportswagon I hit an average on the trip computer of over 50mpg on the motorway. I had mixed-feelings over that achievement smile
What are you doing to a C1 to get 35 ? ours is doing 47 mpg on mainly short journies.

You cant really compare the two, they arent really in competition, suspect the Fiesta is not far off double the price, even a Ka is in a higher market segment than a C1.

I quite fancy an ST Mountune.