RE: TVR wedge: PH Heroes

RE: TVR wedge: PH Heroes

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justboxsters

135 posts

167 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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My Old Beast. Had 2 blue 400SE. First better than the second. Big Character. Deeply flawed. Amazing sound. A ground up rebuilt one of these properly set up would be great.


Guffy

2,311 posts

266 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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My 350 wedge was the first of three TVR's owned, but probably my least favourite.

It did sound good though, definitely a car of it's time, struggle to see it as a classic with those angular lines.



Edited by Guffy on Thursday 24th October 18:52

joncon

1,446 posts

224 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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mine, I was 27 at the time, loved it

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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Love the Wedge shape TVR's and struggle to fathom why more people don't want one. I'd much rather one of these over an MX-5 tbh. hehe

That said, my heart lies with another British V8 powered Wedge, but I will admit the TVR does have a nicer interior wink

Similar, yet oh so different. smile



neither are mine..

Chris-R

756 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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As we're sharing 'wedgies'...

This is the project car PH wouldn't let me buy! (So I bought one myself.) smile

Edited by Chris-R on Thursday 24th October 12:47

smash

2,062 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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I gotta say I'm coming round to the Eclat - I even nearly bid on a silver Elite that had a V8 conversion on ebay a couple of months back. Very Space 1999/UFO Commander Straker!

wedgeinald

1,309 posts

191 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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I have had two Tasmin 280i's



and whilst they lack a little of the grunt present in the later 350's and beyond, they are still "silly grin generators", I too sturggle not to blip the throttle as I pass various groups on the road and especially under bridges and through tunnels.

By far the most smiles per mile of any car I have owned.


Evo

3,462 posts

255 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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DonkeyApple said:
It is impossible not to smile when one of these cars goes past and whatever car you are in still feel a bit of envy. A true PH classic. Affordable, dangerous, smelly, exciting. Brilliant.

Sadly, most Wedge owners seem to prefer to use their Wedge as a garden ornament to roll around under every week or so and cover themselves in muck and oil. That's when they aren't whinging on PH about not having enough time in life to do enough rolling around on the floor next to the car. Strange folk the Wedgies. Strange folk winkbiggrin
I agree with the first part entirely.

I took my Chimaera to Gunwharf Quays and parking in the underground carpark, by the time i'd driven round their were two chaps giving us a standing ovation and clapping, guess they appreciated the underground noise from a decatted and sleeved Chimaera smile

Chris-R

756 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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smash said:
I gotta say I'm coming round to the Eclat - I even nearly bid on a silver Elite that had a V8 conversion on ebay a couple of months back. Very Space 1999/UFO Commander Straker!
In that case I very nearly bid against you!

Snap one up while they're still cheap as chips, I reckon. Chapman-era Lotii have got to start appreciating one day...

(Hopefully this century!) smile

patmahe

5,759 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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So a question to those who have/had one (talking 350i here). What are the big issues with these? And how much do you need to set aside for a years maintenance?

Also is a 30+ year old TVR a whole heap of trouble? (Genuine question as I've always liked the looks but never knew much about them) ie. Would I need to be a very competent mechanic and committed owner to keep one going?

peteA

2,681 posts

235 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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pjac67 said:
A true marmite car and I love 'em.

A Wedge on the mag Fast Lane front cover in 1984 (?) IIRC when I was 17 was when the TVR bug hit me and I'm still on the medication to counter my addiction...
Was this it...?


crostonian

2,427 posts

173 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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Love it and can't believe how cheap these still are. I'll never forget, aged 15, Chorley town centre back in 1989, on my Peugeot racing bike, keeping up with a dark blue 400SE in the traffic and just sitting behind it in the queue. The best road car I'd ever heard at close quarters and after 3 years of mithering I finally managed to persuade my dad to buy a Griffith 4.0 just after they'd come out. Yes the Griff is probably superior in every way but there's something a touch exotic about the wedges and the sound of a V8 or even V6 TVR is why Lotus have never done anything for me.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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patmahe said:
So a question to those who have/had one (talking 350i here). What are the big issues with these? And how much do you need to set aside for a years maintenance?

Also is a 30+ year old TVR a whole heap of trouble? (Genuine question as I've always liked the looks but never knew much about them) ie. Would I need to be a very competent mechanic and committed owner to keep one going?
I haven't owned one. But logically I'd say it's all about condition. Make sure the chassis isn't rusted to buggery, although it can be fixed. But it's more than a home DIY job for most.

Mechanical bits should be pretty solid, although like most British things, maybe just a bit fickle and leaking oil.

The engine is just a Rover V8, as found in SD1's, TR7 V8's, Range Rover's and many others.

In most cases TVR only did little to them, maybe a cam and a little head work. On this basis, should you need a replacement, then you can buy 3.9's, 4.0's and even 4.6's off ebay for not a lot of money.

Gearboxes are I think the LT-77, Leyland Transmissions. Found again in things like TR7's, SD1's and even Defenders.

This means sourcing, maintaining and fixing the major mechanical bits should be fairly straight forward and there is no reason why they can't be durable and reliable either.

Body's are GRP, so quite easy to repair, but can often need some TLC. And the interiors, personally I love the TVR interiors, but there are some bespoke bits in there. So bear in mind bespoke items will always be more difficult and potentially more expensive to source.

Evo

3,462 posts

255 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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Agree with the above, mechanically a lot is off the shelf cheap to source components.

Chassis, Chassis, Chassis, did I say Chassis biggrin

I've owned two Chimaera's and both were completely reliable apart from a worn out starter motor.

chj

763 posts

214 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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That's my old car. I sold it to Simon biggrin

cologne2792

2,128 posts

127 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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It's the first TVR I ever remember seeing when I was kid - well hearing actually ! Awesome concept !
How long does the chassis last and where they powder coated ?

TA14

12,722 posts

259 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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TA14 said:
Apart from the fact that the two bits that he mentions he misled: the RV8 is not just any old 155bhp or less common or garden variety and the gearbox is one of the better versions of the LT77.

If you're looking to buy one then post on the wedge section here.
Re: the engine. Really makes no odds. As TVR for the most part made up their power figures. You'd certainly want to avoid a low CR variant (MGB, RR) but seeing as these where 3.5 carb engines and fairly rare these days, it's unlikely to be an issue should you be sourcing a replacement engine.

But there is no reason you couldn't use 3.9 EFI out of a Disco as a starting point. All you'd need is a cam and some head work and you are bang on where a TVR 4.0 litre motor is. TVR didn't use magic fairy dust on any of their engines.

As for the gearbox, maybe you could clarify exactly how they are better than other Lt-77's wink

allgonepetetong

1,188 posts

220 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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I too remember these from when a teenager. I remember being quite stunned by the shape and noise at the time. Went on to own a 4.0 Chimeaera, decatted and sleeved - oh the noise.

Inboard discs reduce UN-sprung wight though, shirley?

Evo

3,462 posts

255 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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cologne2792 said:
It's the first TVR I ever remember seeing when I was kid - well hearing actually ! Awesome concept !
How long does the chassis last and where they powder coated ?
How long a chassis lasts is entirely dependant on how much preventative maintenance has been done by previous owners especially on the parts that can be accessed with the body on.

As an idea, watch the Wheeler Dealers episode when Ed removed the body from a 1999 Cerbera, there were sections of chassis in the transmission tunnel completely missing..........

Yes they were powder coated but as the coating deteriorated with age the moisture gets in etc etc