RE: VW Golf GTI vs BMW M135i vs Mercedes A45 AMG

RE: VW Golf GTI vs BMW M135i vs Mercedes A45 AMG

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Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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carparkno1 said:
So how much are people really paying for the M135i?Saw one in black yesterday and the howl it made was quite splendid.

If we are talking 35k with options but actually paying 30k then my interest just went through the roof.
Discounts have been quite favourable, I'd iamgine it'll obviously vary from dealer to dealer but you could likely drive away in one for the figures you are mentioning, or there abouts.

carparkno1

1,432 posts

159 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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Axionknight said:
Discounts have been quite favourable, I'd iamgine it'll obviously vary from dealer to dealer but you could likely drive away in one for the figures you are mentioning, or there abouts.
with the zf auto and a couple of niceties it could be such a great car for 30k

Ali_T

3,379 posts

258 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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Amirhussain said:
Think the Golf will start fully shining when VW make an R version.
They already have. Orders are starting to go through in a few weeks. It would certainly be far more relevant. Why don't they compare a Jetta TDi to a BMW M550d next? Because it's kind of the same thing...

TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

208 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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So the BMW seems like the one to go for in terms of VFM. Shame it's woefully ugly in comparison to the Merc and Golf.

richwig83

14,255 posts

139 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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TaylotS2K said:
So the BMW seems like the one to go for in terms of VFM. Shame it's woefully ugly in comparison to the Merc and Golf.
Theres always the option of the last gen. 135i twin turbo. 9/10ths as good as the M. and looks better IMO

Deako

50 posts

160 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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carparkno1 said:
with the zf auto and a couple of niceties it could be such a great car for 30k
I ticked ZF auto, Harmon kardon and Professional media. I saved £5k. But bigger discounts are available.

16-18% is achieveable.

PunterCam

1,073 posts

196 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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Deako said:
I ticked ZF auto, Harmon kardon and Professional media. I saved £5k. But bigger discounts are available.

16-18% is achieveable.
Automatic? Is it not meant to be a hot hatch?? I'm confused... Automatics are for old people and luxury saloons

chrisironside

668 posts

163 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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lmsrocket said:
I smoked an A45 the other day on the m6, 2 or 3 times the a45 was in my mirror, RS3 has more puff higher up the mph.
I overtook a Ferrari F355 on a country road in my mum's car. The Ferrari is a decent car, but I deduce the Saab 9-3 has better mid-range performance and is better on the twisty bits.

Deako

50 posts

160 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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PunterCam said:
Automatic? Is it not meant to be a hot hatch?? I'm confused... Automatics are for old people and luxury saloons
Offset pedals in manual BMWs cause me sciatica. Experience from a 123d i owned. Really wanted to own the M135i, so auto was the compromise. Its a good job the ZF box is so outstanding.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

266 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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"What, and you thought because BMW has taken its M135i back we'd stop talking about it?"

yes I did hope that would be the case.

simo1863

1,868 posts

129 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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Not tried the golf so can't comment but have tried three different M135is.

Really like the drive, it's very quick and would be stuck between choosing the very good manual or very good auto. The only downsides were that it is hideous and doesn't have a dif.... the M235i with optional dif might just be the holy grail.

On Friday I'm going to be lucky enough to try the A45 for a week. I've always preferred the RWD M cars and AMGs over the quattro RSs so it'll be interesting to see what it's like.

Of the non AMG/sort of M Car variants I'd probably prefer the 1 Series.

Deako

50 posts

160 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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simo1863 said:
Not tried the golf so can't comment but have tried three different M135is.

Really like the drive, it's very quick and would be stuck between choosing the very good manual or very good auto. The only downsides were that it is hideous and doesn't have a dif.... the M235i with optional dif might just be the holy grail.

On Friday I'm going to be lucky enough to try the A45 for a week. I've always preferred the RWD M cars and AMGs over the quattro RSs so it'll be interesting to see what it's like.

Of the non AMG/sort of M Car variants I'd probably prefer the 1 Series.
The diff is going to be a retrofit dealer option. And will be available on the M135i. I always loved an ugly duckling, and personally love the looks of the M135i. biggrin

Mine on collection day back in September:



Edited by Deako on Monday 28th October 13:59

FlavaDave

213 posts

160 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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I struggle to read these articles.

I suggest a course in creative writing skills, or something...

(Sorry Dan)

simo1863

1,868 posts

129 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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Deako said:
The diff is going to be a retrofit dealer option. And will be available on the M135i. I always loved an ugly duckling, and personally love the looks of the M135i. biggrin
I drove two 3dr (white and a blue) and a 5dr in blue but never warmed to the looks.

When approaching it I had to ask myself if I was rushing because it's so good to drive or so I don't have to look at it any more and it's somewhere in the middle.

I agree RE the ugly duckling comment but there's a line, the Renault 5 GT was horrid to look at but had an ugly charm to it. To a degree I think the X6M is similar (although I know that really is Marmite).

I'm not bothered by it but I'm surprised none has brought up sound actuators yet.

jamespink

1,218 posts

205 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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lmsrocket said:
I smoked an A45 the other day on the m6, 2 or 3 times the a45 was in my mirror, RS3 has more puff higher up the mph.
So 335BHP plays 360BHP, 335 wins? Magic...

Terminator X

15,111 posts

205 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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Are the CO2 readings correct? Very surprised at how low they are vs performance on offer eek

TX.

kambites

67,599 posts

222 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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Terminator X said:
Are the CO2 readings correct? Very surprised at how low they are vs performance on offer eek

TX.
Define "correct". They're what the cars produced on the official EU tests. That doesn't mean anyone will get anywhere near them when actually driving the cars.

Terminator X

15,111 posts

205 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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CO2 not MPG wink

TX.

kambites

67,599 posts

222 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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Terminator X said:
CO2 not MPG wink

TX.
They're exactly the same thing, for a given fuel type. They don't even measure both on the test, IIRC - they measure one and then calculate the other from it.

Krikkit

26,547 posts

182 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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kambites said:
Terminator X said:
CO2 not MPG wink

TX.
They're exactly the same thing, for a given fuel type. They don't even measure both on the test, IIRC - they measure one and then calculate the other from it.
Correct. They measure CO2 and calculate fuel consumption from that.