Best lease car deals available?

Best lease car deals available?

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rich12

3,463 posts

154 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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My point was that obviously it isn't covered if it fails whereas if you bought it say cash would it be covered through warranty?
As I said, I have no idea but just wondered if it is something people think about when leasing a diesel to do >5k miles a year/

Blown2CV

28,816 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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dzpotter said:
Blown2CV said:
That's nothing to do with leasing, if you're driving 5k miles a year in a diesel and the DPF fails, what does that have to do with the method through which you acquired the car?
Sorry but what is a DPF?
Diesel Particulate Filter. Component that means diesels give off less dodgy emissions. Clogs up if you don't use the car a lot, or for other reasons. Can be expensive to sort. Petrol car drivers tend to focus on this as a reason why diesels are bad and unreliable.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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rich12 said:
I don't really know much about diesels but seeing as the DPF isnt covered, how likely is it that it would fail given a lot of these deals are 5k miles/year?
How likely is it to happen before the car goes back?

Isn't covered by what? The manufacturer's warranty?

CYMR0

3,940 posts

200 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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rich12 said:
My point was that obviously it isn't covered if it fails whereas if you bought it say cash would it be covered through warranty?
As I said, I have no idea but just wondered if it is something people think about when leasing a diesel to do >5k miles a year/
Maintenance isn't included but the car would be under exactly the same manufacturer's warranty as a purchased car.

If anything you're probably in a (slightly) better position as you'd have the funder to go into bat for you, because they would want their car back in a good state.

If a DPF fails within 2 years and 10k miles, regardless of use, I would expect substantial goodwill at the very least, if not an outright replacement.

rich12

3,463 posts

154 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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CYMR0 said:
Maintenance isn't included but the car would be under exactly the same manufacturer's warranty as a purchased car.

If anything you're probably in a (slightly) better position as you'd have the funder to go into bat for you, because they would want their car back in a good state.

If a DPF fails within 2 years and 10k miles, regardless of use, I would expect substantial goodwill at the very least, if not an outright replacement.
The reason for my question was that before I leased the petrol Qashqai for my misses, I was considering the diesel one (wasn't aware the 1.6 petrol was available) but in the quotation email they sent me a PDF regarding the DPF saying it will not be covered if it failed.

I have no idea how likely it is to go or even how much it would cost but as she does a 6 mile round journey and the petrol worked out at £2 more a month, it was a no brainer for me.

MoelyCrio

2,457 posts

182 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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You have to be pretty quick with these deals don't you?

I was looking at E class deals 2 weeks ago and anything decent has gone.

Do they get monthly allocations from the manufacturers, ie will there be some tasty deals starting tomorrow? I fancy a new C class saloon, but the cheap deals are all on the old C Class coupe.

Emeye

9,773 posts

223 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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rich12 said:
The reason for my question was that before I leased the petrol Qashqai for my misses, I was considering the diesel one (wasn't aware the 1.6 petrol was available) but in the quotation email they sent me a PDF regarding the DPF saying it will not be covered if it failed.

I have no idea how likely it is to go or even how much it would cost but as she does a 6 mile round journey and the petrol worked out at £2 more a month, it was a no brainer for me.
I was wondering how the brokers and dealers were covering themselves by leasing diesel cars on low mileage deals when the manufacturer's own advice is to avoid short journeys yet a low mileage lease suggests the customer is going to be doing short journeys!

Do you thing the average customer is going to be making the effort to take their diesel for a long fast blast every week? I mean, it may push them over their mileage limit!

TheJelley

196 posts

139 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Emeye said:
rich12 said:
The reason for my question was that before I leased the petrol Qashqai for my misses, I was considering the diesel one (wasn't aware the 1.6 petrol was available) but in the quotation email they sent me a PDF regarding the DPF saying it will not be covered if it failed.

I have no idea how likely it is to go or even how much it would cost but as she does a 6 mile round journey and the petrol worked out at £2 more a month, it was a no brainer for me.
I was wondering how the brokers and dealers were covering themselves by leasing diesel cars on low mileage deals when the manufacturer's own advice is to avoid short journeys yet a low mileage lease suggests the customer is going to be doing short journeys!

Do you thing the average customer is going to be making the effort to take their diesel for a long fast blast every week? I mean, it may push them over their mileage limit!
With a mileage charge of 7.2p is it not more a case of keeping the lease price low, expecting people to go over? On a related note, is there normally a maximum number of excess miles? I am considering the Tiguan or Octavia.

Emeye

9,773 posts

223 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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TheJelley said:
With a mileage charge of 7.2p is it not more a case of keeping the lease price low, expecting people to go over? On a related note, is there normally a maximum number of excess miles? I am considering the Tiguan or Octavia.
That was my plan when I original signed up for a Golf R before we got fked over and I had a moan on Radio4 about it.

It worked out cheaper to take the car on 5000 miles pa than paying for 8k or 10k up front.

jjr1

3,023 posts

260 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Emeye said:
TheJelley said:
With a mileage charge of 7.2p is it not more a case of keeping the lease price low, expecting people to go over? On a related note, is there normally a maximum number of excess miles? I am considering the Tiguan or Octavia.
That was my plan when I original signed up for a Golf R before we got fked over and I had a moan on Radio4 about it.

It worked out cheaper to take the car on 5000 miles pa than paying for 8k or 10k up front.
Whats the story?

va1o

16,032 posts

207 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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TheJelley said:
With a mileage charge of 7.2p is it not more a case of keeping the lease price low, expecting people to go over? On a related note, is there normally a maximum number of excess miles? I am considering the Tiguan or Octavia.
Some providers have a tiered approach, I.e. So the first X,000 excess miles cost 6p and next Y,000 cost 10p. However I don't belive that's the case for the Tiguan deal which seems to be a flat rate with no specified maximum limit

HJMS123

988 posts

133 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Rickeh said:
Fiesta ST3 deals gone up £12 a month to £192 per month now on gateway to lease. Was very close to pulling the trigger at £180.
I was just about to as well ... annoying!

Emeye

9,773 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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jjr1 said:
Emeye said:
TheJelley said:
With a mileage charge of 7.2p is it not more a case of keeping the lease price low, expecting people to go over? On a related note, is there normally a maximum number of excess miles? I am considering the Tiguan or Octavia.
That was my plan when I original signed up for a Golf R before we got fked over and I had a moan on Radio4 about it.

It worked out cheaper to take the car on 5000 miles pa than paying for 8k or 10k up front.
Whats the story?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=86&t=1364882&mid=52115&i=2740&nmt=Lease+on+Golf+R+&mid=52115

It's all in there somewhere - basically everyone ordered Golf Rs on leases as they were so cheap but it turn out the dealers and brokers were putting private individuals through on business only Sole Traders leases. VW finance pulled the plug and we had our orders cancelled. I moaned a bit on PH and was asked to do an interview for Radio 4 You and Your's about it - eventually VW had to admit they're not allowed to discriminate against purchasers but by then I'd got fed up. A Sales Director from VW had called me up to "explain the situation" and managed to fk me off royally by being stunningly patronising so I went out and bought a car, as leasing was supposed to be hassle free! biggrin


Edited by Emeye on Monday 2nd February 20:52

skahigh

2,023 posts

131 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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HJMS123 said:
Rickeh said:
Fiesta ST3 deals gone up £12 a month to £192 per month now on gateway to lease. Was very close to pulling the trigger at £180.
I was just about to as well ... annoying!
No need to be annoyed

https://www.firstvehicleleasing.co.uk/car-leasing/...

tjs79

875 posts

174 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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va1o said:
TheJelley said:
With a mileage charge of 7.2p is it not more a case of keeping the lease price low, expecting people to go over? On a related note, is there normally a maximum number of excess miles? I am considering the Tiguan or Octavia.
Some providers have a tiered approach, I.e. So the first X,000 excess miles cost 6p and next Y,000 cost 10p. However I don't belive that's the case for the Tiguan deal which seems to be a flat rate with no specified maximum limit
Freedom contracts said just this to me when I called. It works out cheaper to take the 5k deal and pay at the end if you do 10k pa. I think it's just a way of getting people to take the deal, no real penalty for going over, unlike my golf r deal which has a rather tasty 33.6p mile penalty if I go over 20k...

Rickeh

246 posts

215 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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skahigh said:
Just got an email back from them today. Apparently they've only one black ST3 left.

HJMS123

988 posts

133 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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skahigh said:
I enquired with them this morning and haven't had a reply yet. Their offer is £180 pcm but doesn't say if it includes the style pack at that price or not

HJMS123

988 posts

133 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Rickeh said:
Just got an email back from them today. Apparently they've only one black ST3 left.
Did the price include the style pack by any chance?

Rickeh

246 posts

215 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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HJMS123 said:
Did the price include the style pack by any chance?
Didn't say. I assume not as G2L quoted an extra fiver a month for that when I inquired a while ago.

Streetrod

6,468 posts

206 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Newbie here to the world of leasing. I am going to have £300 per month to spend. I won’t be doing more than 10,000 miles per year. What do I need to consider and can you please explain the acronyms that I see on this thread, thanks in advance
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