Best lease car deals available?

[Vaud]

rampantdidact said:

Its ridiculous in the manner of a new order and having to wait for basically a child to be born

I agree that they should be able to set expectations better at point of order, or if their order book is full, to refuse the order.

[theboss]

Vaud said:

rampantdidact said:

Its ridiculous in the manner of a new order and having to wait for basically a child to be born

I agree that they should be able to set expectations better at point of order, or if their order book is full, to refuse the order.

Agreed. They also seem to be very slow at actually getting them out of the door even when built. My own car was built 3 weeks ago but is still in transit allegedly. My two brothers have had their cars sat at the dealership for several weeks but are finding the paperwork process to be very tedious.

Communication has been very poor seeing as the goal posts have been constantly moving.

In all honesty if it weren't for the fact that I don't really need the car, I'd have cancelled the order, and I wouldn't elect to go through this process again.

In contrast I ordered a BMW in February, a new factory order, and collected the car 5 weeks later. From factory door in Germany, to handover at my UK dealership, was barely more than a week.

Edited by theboss on Monday 27th April 11:17

[hursty999]

TonyF55 said:

Any better deals than this on an Evoque ? I'm happy with 4 years as it will be used for family duties. The engine is the 2.0 diesel, is this the new engine ?

http://www.1stchoicevehiclefinance.co.uk/quotation...

This seems quite good to me; excess mileage is only 11.52p inc VAT aswell. Must admit I am quite tempted myself as more practical than my e93 BMW!

[Emeye]

Vaud said:

rampantdidact said:

The waiting list is literally 8 months now, which is ridiculous.

Why? The lead time to scale up factory capacity is a lot longer; they have been very popular. Would you prefer that they raised the price to reduce sales?

I read that the delay was a lot worse with DSG cars as they cannot make them fast enough.

[MattHall91]

hursty999 said:

TonyF55 said:

Any better deals than this on an Evoque ? I'm happy with 4 years as it will be used for family duties. The engine is the 2.0 diesel, is this the new engine ?

http://www.1stchoicevehiclefinance.co.uk/quotation...

This seems quite good to me; excess mileage is only 11.52p inc VAT aswell. Must admit I am quite tempted myself as more practical than my e93 BMW!

11p good? Try 6/7p

[Emeye]

MattHall91 said:

hursty999 said:

TonyF55 said:

Any better deals than this on an Evoque ? I'm happy with 4 years as it will be used for family duties. The engine is the 2.0 diesel, is this the new engine ?

http://www.1stchoicevehiclefinance.co.uk/quotation...

This seems quite good to me; excess mileage is only 11.52p inc VAT aswell. Must admit I am quite tempted myself as more practical than my e93 BMW!

11p good? Try 6/7p

I would be concerned about taking a 48 month lease out - if something goes wrong in the 4th year you could end up shelling out quite a lot of cash to fix a car that you can not keep. I guess a 4th year warranty extension could be factored into the price?

[Vaud]

anonymous said:

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OK for short term. But pissed off customers rarely drives good loyalty or retention, especially with such a short term lease.

[Fox-]

Vaud said:

Would you prefer that they raised the price to reduce sales?

This would be the sensible step surely. Where is the sense in flooding the market with used R's at 2 years old, crucifying the residuals for those few people who actually paid cash, whilst at the same time having so many orders that the waiting list is getting on for half the term of the lease?

Price should be the point at which demand and supply meet...

[theboss]

Vaud said:

anonymous said:

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OK for short term. But pissed off customers rarely drives good loyalty or retention, especially with such a short term lease.

Exactly. I won't be in a rush to order another VW even if they are being knocked out on dirt cheap lease deals again in two years time. On the other hand BMW were very good.

My brother's R was 3 weeks agead of mine in the build queue but has been sat with the dealers for 17 days and delivery is still at least a week away - this is after a 6 month wait for it to be built. The lease they could do is organise prompt handover once the car physically exists and has reached the supplying dealership.

[talksthetorque]

They got orders for 'many' of the same RHD cars all at the same time. Perhaps it may take a while to build them? Perhaps there's a part shortage and they decided to send them to the dealers without dealer fit option X.
Perhaps they're handing them out slowly so as NOT to flood the market with them 2 years and six weeks after the initial offer? Perhaps the dealer has met his numbers to reg this month and wants to put your car in next months numbers.
Just an idea, Moan to the dealer/lease agent/vwfs/vwuk.

[TonyF55]

Emeye said:

MattHall91 said:

hursty999 said:

TonyF55 said:

Any better deals than this on an Evoque ? I'm happy with 4 years as it will be used for family duties. The engine is the 2.0 diesel, is this the new engine ?

http://www.1stchoicevehiclefinance.co.uk/quotation...

This seems quite good to me; excess mileage is only 11.52p inc VAT aswell. Must admit I am quite tempted myself as more practical than my e93 BMW!

11p good? Try 6/7p

I would be concerned about taking a 48 month lease out - if something goes wrong in the 4th year you could end up shelling out quite a lot of cash to fix a car that you can not keep. I guess a 4th year warranty extension could be factored into the price?

My thinking is I will either upgrade the exisiting warranty in year 3 to cover year 4 or I will purchase a 3rd party warranty for year 4. Im in disussions with a dealer at the moment who I think is going to macth the PCH deal I posted, but im going for an SE Tech now for an extra £10 a month.

Extra mileage charge does not really effect me, I dont do more than 8k a year anyway.

[Burwood]

Vaud said:

anonymous said:

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OK for short term. But pissed off customers rarely drives good loyalty or retention, especially with such a short term lease.

BUt why does this equate to pissing off loyal customers. You would be surprised how many dont know you can lease an R for peanuts and they like owning their cars. Residuals are still good/better than most. My father for example has his trousers pulled down ever time he buys a new bmw-he doesn't seem to care. He has the attitude, used cars are not worth much

[Emeye]

Burwood said:

BUt why does this equate to pissing off loyal customers. You would be surprised how many dont know you can lease an R for peanuts and they like owning their cars. Residuals are still good/better than most. My father for example has his trousers pulled down ever time he buys a new bmw-he doesn't seem to care. He has the attitude, used cars are not worth much

Could be another way to put people off leasing a car off them rather than getting an expensive PCP?

I doubt the dealers are very happy about VWFS and VAG having to start offering Personal Leases as they are likely to make less money off them.

[Burwood]

Emeye said:

Burwood said:

BUt why does this equate to pissing off loyal customers. You would be surprised how many dont know you can lease an R for peanuts and they like owning their cars. Residuals are still good/better than most. My father for example has his trousers pulled down ever time he buys a new bmw-he doesn't seem to care. He has the attitude, used cars are not worth much

Could be another way to put people off leasing a car off them rather than getting an expensive PCP?

I doubt the dealers are very happy about VWFS and VAG having to start offering Personal Leases as they are likely to make less money off them.

i can see the dealers being upset but i thought the poster meant 'customers' maybe he meant dealers are customers which i suppose they are. there are probably other incentives though.

[theboss]

Emeye said:

Could be another way to put people off leasing a car off them rather than getting an expensive PCP?

I doubt the dealers are very happy about VWFS and VAG having to start offering Personal Leases as they are likely to make less money off them.

I wondered this myself - by leasing, am I a VW 'business' customer being dealt with by a retail arm of a dealership franchise which ultimately couldn't give a fk? 'Customer' service has been absolutely non-existent.

[bluenosewrx]

Thats only the 2 wheel drive evoque, cant see the point personally, better fuel economy i suppose

[JamesK]

Anyone seen any half decent 4 seat convertible deals around? Only need 8k miles and probably only want 24 months which won't help my cause but I can only ever see really overpriced stuff and even then with miniscule diesel engines

[Vaud]

Burwood said:

BUt why does this equate to pissing off loyal customers. You would be surprised how many dont know you can lease an R for peanuts and they like owning their cars. Residuals are still good/better than most. My father for example has his trousers pulled down ever time he buys a new bmw-he doesn't seem to care. He has the attitude, used cars are not worth much

You missed my point. I meant that pissing off "potentially loyal" customers - someone leasing a Golf R could become a lifetime brand fan. To annoy them in their first engagement with a 6 month wait does not engender loyalty.

[loudlashadjuster]

Is there such a thing as a ‘whole of market’ lease broker who will take a fee payable on taking a lease to scour other brokers and perhaps have some direct relationships to find a best deal on a basket of cars?

A lot of brokers I've spoken to are happy to quote on specific models (and may only have competitive access to some marques), but I'm less bothered about the exact car and more interested in just getting something suitable that fits in roughly with what I need.

It needs to be an estate, petrol preferred but diesel will do, fairly decent trim level so I don’t need to worry about the basics like cruise, not really bothered about colour. Key thing is availability in 4-5 weeks, and of course cost!

The kind of things I've been looking at that are roughly in budget.

Octavia vRS TSI – Probably the ideal mix
Superb Elegance 170 – Diesel, but a bit cheaper. Seems to be plenty of stock too.
Focus ST – Smallish but a bit more PH
C or E220 – C is smaller, plus I'm not a big fan of the interior. E would good
520d Luxury – Wife’s choice, on the pricier side
A6 Avant Ultra – Probably not my first choice but there seem to be some reasonable deals around
Etc.

Looking for a 3+35 deal with 12k mile preferred, although 10k would be fine as long as the excess ppm isn't too high.

Sounds a bit lazy, but is there anyone I can fire off a list of requirements like this to and have them do all the grunt work assist by using their market knowledge for a small consideration?

[Doodlebug87]

I have been looking recently for something relatively quick and not too expensive - VRS' can be had quite cheap, but the main car which has surprised me (that I hadn't even considered) is the Leon Cupra 280. You can get the DSG on a maintained lease, 20k miles for just over £300 inc VAT - obviously even better deals for lower mileage. I'm seriously considering going for one, as there is nothing else available anywhere near the same price bracket.