Best lease car deals available?

Best lease car deals available?

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Hitch78

6,105 posts

194 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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S8QUATTRO said:
good thread!
Well started!

wemorgan

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178 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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uk_vette said:
C220 Blueteck diesel.

The cost was
3000.00 down,
299.00 a month
for 36 months,
and 10,000 miles.

Good or bad?
Not great really. With 3-series being discounted so much this month it's hard to justify a C-class.
For less money you can have a BMW 3 SERIES DIESEL SALOON 330d BluePer xDrive M Sport 4dr Step Auto
6+23 10k/yr £268 inc VAT (£7762)
http://www.easternwesternfleetservices.co.uk/busin...

But if you must have a C-class I'd wait for next month to see if any new deals comes through. The best I've seen so far is
6+35 10k/yr £269 inc VAT
https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/car-leasing...

or
6+23 10k/yr £250 inc VAT
https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/car-leasing...


Edited by wemorgan on Friday 12th June 07:08

Cpb1702

418 posts

115 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Has anyone got a good range rover sport hse quote please?

Zoon

6,689 posts

121 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Cpb1702 said:
Has anyone got a good range rover sport hse quote please?
I don't think they exist.

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

155 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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andrewparker said:
neil1jnr said:
sjg said:
neil1jnr said:
That is a truly awful deal.

That cost is roughly £0.74/mile! Before the cost of fuel and consumables. I really don't get these 5K miles per year deals, you are being truly ripped off.
If you doubled the miles (20k over the term), it would only add £628 in excess mileage charge, thus about 40p a mile.

I'd be inclined to do similar, I'm well under the mileage on my current lease and as long as the excess miles charge is reasonable (and doesn't ramp up if you go nuts) it gives quite a bit of flexibility.
I am pretty sure you can't just do double the miles over the term and then just pay the additional mileage charge for each mile? Isn't there a limit to the additional mileage you can do, or it would make the higher mileage deals obsolete?
You can actually. That excess is up to 9,999 additional miles. Any miles above that are charged at 9.1ppm.

FWIW I'll do 16000 miles in it over the term, so cost per mile should be approximately £0.48.

As said before, on the face of it these 5000k deals looks poor, but delve a bit further into the excesses and they can often work out far less than a comparable higher mileage deal.

Edited by andrewparker on Thursday 11th June 14:07
If that's the case then yes that makes the deal look a bit bit better. On the face of it it does look awful though. The only downside is that the guaranteed future value will no longer be 'guaranteed' as that value was agreed only if the vehicle doesn't exceed the mileage limit. So it may be not very expensive to pay the additional miles charge but then the vehicle itself may have devalued below the agreed 'guarenteed future value' and the obligation to guarentee you that amount is void... negative equity situation?

Marc p

1,036 posts

142 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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neil1jnr said:
If that's the case then yes that makes the deal look a bit bit better. On the face of it it does look awful though. The only downside is that the guaranteed future value will no longer be 'guaranteed' as that value was agreed only if the vehicle doesn't exceed the mileage limit. So it may be not very expensive to pay the additional miles charge but then the vehicle itself may have devalued below the agreed 'guarenteed future value' and the obligation to guarentee you that amount is void... negative equity situation?
Your confusing yourself with PCP, this is a lease car so there is no guaranteed future value, you just hand the car back and pay for any excess mileage. PCP is the one with a GFV giving you an option to buy the car, trade it in or walk away.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Zoon said:
Cpb1702 said:
Has anyone got a good range rover sport hse quote please?
I don't think they exist.
Yeah they do, I saw one on the M1 the other day
jester


https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/car-leasing...

9 +47 8k pa
£570 + VAT
yikes


Edited by talksthetorque on Friday 12th June 10:48

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

155 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Marc p said:
neil1jnr said:
If that's the case then yes that makes the deal look a bit bit better. On the face of it it does look awful though. The only downside is that the guaranteed future value will no longer be 'guaranteed' as that value was agreed only if the vehicle doesn't exceed the mileage limit. So it may be not very expensive to pay the additional miles charge but then the vehicle itself may have devalued below the agreed 'guarenteed future value' and the obligation to guarentee you that amount is void... negative equity situation?
Your confusing yourself with PCP, this is a lease car so there is no guaranteed future value, you just hand the car back and pay for any excess mileage. PCP is the one with a GFV giving you an option to buy the car, trade it in or walk away.
My mistake! Too busy trying to think of a negative reason for going over the mileage allowance. For the sake of a low charge for going over the mile allowance, then yes the deal does look more appealing.

Can anyone explain how this works, my mind is still thinking that logically there must be another downside to going over the allowance than just a small charge?


talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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If you don't have maintenance then you have to put more tyres on/service it more etc.

I saw a deal the other day for a car 3 + 23 8kpa with maintenance included!
The maintenance charge was about £15 per month.For nothing
18k miles for first service, not going to chew through tyres brakes or a clutch in that time either.

blearyeyedboy

6,283 posts

179 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Out of interest, why are a lot of lease deals "for business users only"?

VAT aside, why would a leasing company care if I'm driving for work or driving to visit my friends?

Marc p

1,036 posts

142 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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blearyeyedboy said:
Out of interest, why are a lot of lease deals "for business users only"?

VAT aside, why would a leasing company care if I'm driving for work or driving to visit my friends?
Because they can source through the Manufacturers commercial arm if the car can be classed as business use, which they get bulk discounts and rebates on.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Marc p said:
blearyeyedboy said:
Out of interest, why are a lot of lease deals "for business users only"?

VAT aside, why would a leasing company care if I'm driving for work or driving to visit my friends?
Because they can source through the Manufacturers commercial arm if the car can be classed as business use, which they get bulk discounts and rebates on.
Obtaining finance for a business is a different process to obtaining finance for an individual.
Different credit scoring methods, different means of redress if an individual/ a business doesn't pay.

Trif

747 posts

173 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Marc p said:
Because they can source through the Manufacturers commercial arm if the car can be classed as business use, which they get bulk discounts and rebates on.
What are the requirements for business? That 3 series deal looks tempting. Would an employed person who 'requires' a car for work count?

wemorgan

3,578 posts

178 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Trif said:
What are the requirements for business? That 3 series deal looks tempting. Would an employed person who 'requires' a car for work count?
From my experience you need to show you're self employed if leasing 'personally'. The car can then be paid either through your Ltd company or personally +VAT.
Otherwise your employer will need to order the car in the more traditional way.

ps. those cheap 320d look to have gone now. The 330d xDrive is still there though.

Edited by wemorgan on Friday 12th June 12:24

MrOnTheRopes

1,425 posts

246 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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It's not how you *use* the car, it's who the contract is with. The business users offers (BCH) will be a contract between them and A COMPANY, not an private individual. So a LTD/Partnership/Sole Trader
PCH are for private individuals


ethomas

315 posts

230 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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I have a question about leasing generally. I have been living for the past 4 years in the Netherlands, where I have a bought an apartment, and have been earning a very decent salary. I am moving back to the UK now, and I would like to lease a car, but without 5 years continuous residence in the UK, it seems to be very difficult. I am able (and willing) to pay the entire lease upfront into some escrow account (a good lease beats depreciation, so it saves money over buying new and selling), but it seems that the finance company will still credit score me and consider me a bad risk.

Does anyone know of a company that is able to look sensibly at a situation like this, without dumping me in to the "poor credit rating" bracket? I am about to start a new job on 70k per year, a £300pm lease is hardly asking a lot!

Cheers!

Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

222 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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In these calculations they are listed as "9+48" or similar.

What does the "9+" stand for?

AAD44H

410 posts

159 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Reardy Mister said:
In these calculations they are listed as "9+48" or similar.

What does the "9+" stand for?
9 months worth of payments upfront.

mattman

3,176 posts

222 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Right then - about to take a step into the murky world of leasing. Looking for a good option on an Evoque - delivery time for the new models is approx Nov which doesn't help and they are bloody popular so no silly cheap deals I can find.

Madam won't look at anything else so no point putting QQ, XC under her nose. At the moment the best I can find on a SE Tech is 3+47 , £378/mth on 10kpa (list is £36,200) - how can I work out if that is a 'good' deal?

as way of comparison, the local LR dealer has a 2yr old Prestige spec (higher i know) with 30k on it and looking for £5k down and £470 month with a balloon of £13k - they want nearer £450/mth for a lease

I made the mistake of googling "evoque lease" and now in a world of pain trying to sift through all the crap - any other suggestions?

Am also looking at 8k pa deals to reduce monthly and use the excess mileage payment if needed

12TS

1,822 posts

210 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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mattman said:
Right then - about to take a step into the murky world of leasing. Looking for a good option on an Evoque - delivery time for the new models is approx Nov which doesn't help and they are bloody popular so no silly cheap deals I can find.

Madam won't look at anything else so no point putting QQ, XC under her nose. At the moment the best I can find on a SE Tech is 3+47 , £378/mth on 10kpa (list is £36,200) - how can I work out if that is a 'good' deal?

as way of comparison, the local LR dealer has a 2yr old Prestige spec (higher i know) with 30k on it and looking for £5k down and £470 month with a balloon of £13k - they want nearer £450/mth for a lease

I made the mistake of googling "evoque lease" and now in a world of pain trying to sift through all the crap - any other suggestions?

Am also looking at 8k pa deals to reduce monthly and use the excess mileage payment if needed
The way I look at is

1. Decide how long I will keep the car (4 years is too long to lock into for me)
2. Work out the total cost on offer for all the alternatives (outright, loan, PCP, PCH). In this case you'd be paying £18750 for the Evoque for 4 years i.e. 50*378
3. Work out how much I want a particular spec (e.g. colour, leather nav could be must haves which can knock some of the cheap deals on the head)

I the case of the Evoque you're paying off 50% of the vehicle cost over 4 years; or to put it another way the RV of the car is will be 50% after 4 years. That sounds a good deal on that type of car, but you need consider all the points above before it's a good deal for you.
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