XKR v C63 v M3 v 997
Discussion
A few very different cars there. The XKR is pure GT-car; the C-class the 3-series are very fast, very accomplished compact execs; the 911 is a very good sports/GT hybrid. I wouldn't say that any of those four cars was better than any of the others, they're just different.
If you don't need back seats, I'd take a Cayman or an Evora (if you can get one in budget) over any of them.
If you don't need back seats, I'd take a Cayman or an Evora (if you can get one in budget) over any of them.
kambites said:
A few very different cars there. The XKR is pure GT-car; the C-class the 3-series are very fast, very accomplished compact execs; the 911 is a very good sports/GT hybrid. I wouldn't say that any of those four cars was better than any of the others, they're just different.
If you don't need back seats, I'd take a Cayman or an Evora (if you can get one in budget) over any of them.
For what it's worth, I think an Evora would be where I would be looking aswell.If you don't need back seats, I'd take a Cayman or an Evora (if you can get one in budget) over any of them.
Cayman S and Evora S both interesting but slightly out of price range at the moment and maybe a little hardcore for everyday use.
I'd like a little more refinement than the E46 with just as much (or more) fun factor.
Maybe that or keep the E46 and buy an old Elise/VX220 for weekend fun.
I'd like a little more refinement than the E46 with just as much (or more) fun factor.
Maybe that or keep the E46 and buy an old Elise/VX220 for weekend fun.
Been looking at the exact same selection... and these keep popping up..
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/n...
and a nice bit of change...
I would go for the C63 personally, the sound is something you just need in your life. I'd avoid the 997, I owned one and given the experiences of a few of my friends who've also owned 997s, the reliability woes seem to be very accurate. However, I think with a bit of luck an Aston Martin V8V is within your budget - if you can stomach the running costs!
toasty said:
Up to £25k to spend incl P/Ex, no pressing need for back seats, daily driver (mostly in town unfortunately).
Currently got an E46 M3 which is fine but got a hankering for something newer.
Are any or all of the above a worthwhile upgrade?
Opinions?
Manual e92 m3 or a 996 turbo.Currently got an E46 M3 which is fine but got a hankering for something newer.
Are any or all of the above a worthwhile upgrade?
Opinions?
From those four the M3 and C63 wouldn't even get a look in for me. Those two are very nice versions of very ordinary cars, the other two are not ordinary in any way. I don't think I could live with myself knowing that I was driving a (albeit faster than is usual) C class merc or 3 series BMW when I could have had a 997 or XKR.
Depreciation likely to me less savage on the 997 than the others too, FWIW.
Depreciation likely to me less savage on the 997 than the others too, FWIW.
dme123 said:
From those four the M3 and C63 wouldn't even get a look in for me. Those two are very nice versions of very ordinary cars, the other two are not ordinary in any way. I don't think I could live with myself knowing that I was driving a (albeit faster than is usual) C class merc or 3 series BMW when I could have had a 997 or XKR.
Depreciation likely to me less savage on the 997 than the others too, FWIW.
I never understood this special argument on bog standard 911s - most are like GT cruisers - i think it must be a brand thing or perhaps relative to what cars have been owned.Depreciation likely to me less savage on the 997 than the others too, FWIW.
A ferrari or lambo are special, a gt3 or gt2 are special - but standard 911...hmmm not in my book.
As for the m3 or c63 - a sub 10 sec 0-60 and a v8 or 6.2 under your control - you can feel the racing heritage of the m power engine. Throw in a carbon roof and it becomes sublime.
996 turbo has been mentioned a couple of times, but (flame suit on) the interior is terribly dated now - if you are looking for something that feels more modern than the E46 M3, I would look elsewhere.
The 997 cabin was leaps ahead of the 996.
But since the 996 turbo has been mentioned, it would be rude not to mention the SL55 AMG - and you'll have change left over for a remap and pulley upgrade
The interior in those has aged surprisingly well for a 10 year old design, and I think the car looks far better than any SL facelift since.
Makes a hell of a noise too!
The 997 cabin was leaps ahead of the 996.
But since the 996 turbo has been mentioned, it would be rude not to mention the SL55 AMG - and you'll have change left over for a remap and pulley upgrade
The interior in those has aged surprisingly well for a 10 year old design, and I think the car looks far better than any SL facelift since.
Makes a hell of a noise too!
I'd take the Jag out of that lot. If you're driving it around cities then any proper sports car is going to be a chore just bursting to get out on a proper (and much smoother) road.
The Jag will be comfortable, cossetting, great sounding and great looking. If you do venture out of town it's not completely inept out on the road. It wont be as agile as the Porsche but won't embarrass itself in that company either.
Think town - think patchwork tarmac and potholes everywhere. Good ride quality and automatic gearbox is essential.
The Jag will be comfortable, cossetting, great sounding and great looking. If you do venture out of town it's not completely inept out on the road. It wont be as agile as the Porsche but won't embarrass itself in that company either.
Think town - think patchwork tarmac and potholes everywhere. Good ride quality and automatic gearbox is essential.
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