Rise of the UK 'SUV'

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HertsBiker

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6,317 posts

272 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Willy Nilly said:
'kin 'ell !!!!! that would have drowned a unimog, let along a Paj. When I say flood, I mean stuff that would bother ordinary cars, so a foot deep of standing water for example. Matey should have carried on forwards..?

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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DocArbathnot said:
Grandfondo said:
DocArbathnot said:
Quite right. Completely pointless for most users most of the time. Popular with yummie mummies (who often can't park the things @ Waitrose) and the keep up with the Jonesies fashion victim kind of families.

Always an exception of course but I really don't see the point.
rolleyes no stereotyping there then? wink
just an observation old boy.
Yawn!

rix

2,789 posts

191 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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That said, my old 'performance SUV' - a Grand Cherokee SRT8, had THE worst ride quality I've ever experienced. A diesel Hond CVRV on 60 profile tyres may be a different matter smile

InfoRetrieval

381 posts

149 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Stuartggray said:
You don't need a SUV, you need a Volvo estate specced with steel wheels like mine. I've had Volvo's since 1986 with 15 inch 195/65 wheels fitted. Much more comfortable coupled to a nice soft suspension setup.
So true. Modern saloons' harsh ride is due to suspension and tyre choice.

That said my Dad seems quite pleased with his X3... who am I to say he's wrong?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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HertsBiker said:
Willy Nilly said:
'kin 'ell !!!!! that would have drowned a unimog, let along a Paj. When I say flood, I mean stuff that would bother ordinary cars, so a foot deep of standing water for example. Matey should have carried on forwards..?
He should have stayed at home. The trouble with yer big ruffty tuffty off roaders is that you people think you are invincible in them. There was a nice story on he last winter or the winter before of someone in a car being careful in the snow and getting overtaken by a Discovery only to round the next bend and find the Discovery in the ditch.



BrownBottle

1,373 posts

137 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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HertsBiker said:
In todays environment, especially in the vastly over crowded south east, why wouldn't you have a SUV?
A good saloon car wipes the floor with them in nearly all the areas that matter IMO.

mcmikey43

29 posts

147 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Hate the things, when they are in front can't see past them so don't see the brake lights of the cars down the line. When they are behind let them past after I put the numbers from autocar brake tests into a spreadsheet and found they take on average 8% more distance to stop than my car, wet or dry. When trying to park in supermarkets don't park next to them as is too cramped and afraid they will open their doors on my car.

Have driven an M3 through floods last year and in snow last winter with right tyres and never found any problems. Don't see how the current 135 will need any changes whatever my driving needs, it goes like a rocket, is easy to get in and out of and has plenty of room . The final nail with SUV's for me is that I have found all the ones I get in X5,XC70 etc all have limited space. In short am completely bemused by the people who buy them and stunned any right thinking petrol head would ever even look at one.

DocArbathnot

27,091 posts

184 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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mcmikey43 said:
In short am completely bemused by the people who buy them and stunned any right thinking petrol head would ever even look at one.
Good point well made.

KTF

9,835 posts

151 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I think its less SUV and more crossover. Sitting up high in a Focus on stilts without the need for the 4x4 gubbins underneath.

Easy to get in and out of, load the kids in and out at your height, etc.

Nissan called it right with the QQ.

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I've got a "free" Merc ML and it's quite excellent in most areas that matter to me but I still hanker after a Subaru Outback which better accomplishes nearly everything that that ML does.

AC43

11,511 posts

209 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Don't understand the appeal of things that are jacked up. Here in London they are pointless.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I don't want to be on first name terms with my local petrol stations staff. So I'll stick to my regular car thanks..

Otispunkmeyer

12,632 posts

156 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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kambites said:
Can't stand the things, personally; either to drive or to be around on the road.
I don't mind but they wouldn't be my first choice of transport. I wouldn't even have a full fat rangie if I knew I had the choice of a similarly priced. While some like the RR, some discos and things like the land cruiser amazon do offer good interior space, I find many don't really offer any more useful space inside than a decent hatchback. Audi seem to be criminal at this, the Q7 is an absolute boat, and yet it's like a reverse tardis.

sunnydude959

907 posts

128 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I don't personally like 4x4s, and I cannot see how I ever will. They're not sporty things...

However, I am 23 without kids/wife/comfort_needs/backache/etc. that you older folk have :P

fangio

988 posts

235 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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SUV?

Stupid, useless vehicle? laugh

JimmyTheHand

1,001 posts

143 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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HertsBiker said:
This includes being able to cross a flooded road without hydraulic-ing the engine.
funny enough I think I have gone further through floods in a Citroen switched to higher ride height than the "SUV"s I have owned.

HertsBiker said:
And of course, the ease of climbing in and out for us old gits has no small part in all this.?
this and headroom is the reason I have a "SUV" - I only sat in one in dealer after ruling other choices out and realised seating position seemed perfect for me as was getting in/out on days when back is playing up.

Though since it was E83 X3, not sure it was best for potholed roads - though sometimes it surprised me (though I suspect that was when suspension didn't give so one wheel was in air above pothole)

Ecosseven

1,987 posts

218 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Not a fan of large 4x4's suchas Range Rovers, land cruisers, Shogun's etc but I do like the idea of compact SUV's such as the Kuga, IX35, Qashqai. My personal favourite is the Skoda Yeti with the 1.8 TSI engine and 4wd.

santona1937

739 posts

131 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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there is nothing remotely PH about any form of SUV. Seeing SUV's of any sort being discussed on here in a positive light is like the day I heard Jimi Hendrix and Led Zep being played as muzac in a US supermarket. I decided then that civilization as we knew it was dead.
Mumsnet has a great discussion board about SUV's. smile

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Jimboka said:
I don't want to be on first name terms with my local petrol stations staff. So I'll stick to my regular car thanks..
Get a Lexus RX-H then.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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santona1937 said:
there is nothing remotely PH about any form of SUV. Seeing SUV's of any sort being discussed on here in a positive light is like the day I heard Jimi Hendrix and Led Zep being played as muzac in a US supermarket. I decided then that civilization as we knew it was dead.
Mumsnet has a great discussion board about SUV's. smile
Says the man who used to have an Isuzu Trooper! rofl

fangio said:
SUV?

Stupid, useless vehicle? laugh
Says the man who drives a diesel A3! rofl

sunnydude959 said:
I don't personally like 4x4s, and I cannot see how I ever will. They're not sporty things...
Says the man who runs a 4x4 Navara Avemtura! rofl

FFS, has this thread attracted people with severe memory loss?



Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 10th November 23:08