RE: Toyota GT86 rally car confirmed

RE: Toyota GT86 rally car confirmed

Wednesday 13th November 2013

Toyota GT86 rally car confirmed

All hail the return of the rear-wheel drive rally car!



Audi's Quattro-based Vorsprung Durch Technik is credited as changing the face of rallying forever but many of us hark back to a day when rally cars were rear-driven and every corner was tackled by Real Men on opposite lock with a rooster tail of gravel in their wake.

TMG in Germany will build the customer cars
TMG in Germany will build the customer cars
Well, those days could be back. Courtesy of automotive white goods manufacturer Toyota, no less.

Making good on a promise made to us by GT86 project figurehead Tetsuya Tada when we met him last year, Toyota's German-based motorsport division has confirmed it will be building a turn-key rally version of the rear-driven coupe to compete in R3 level competition up to and including the WRC. Yes, rear-wheel drive is back in world-level rallying. Hurrah!

This may come as a surprise if you don't know Tada's background but less so when you understand a good portion of his formative years as an engineer were spent at Toyota Motorsport GmbH in Germany working on the firm's 90s rally programme. As we discovered when we drove with him in Scotland, rallying is where his heart really lies and though the GT86's motorsport adventures have kicked off on track he always wanted to see his car put Toyota back on the forest stages it once dominated.

Mods are similar to CS-V3 track car
Mods are similar to CS-V3 track car
Can a rear-driven car really be competitive against the front-driven privateer Peugeots, Skodas, Fords and Renaults that traditionally dominate this level of rallying? We'll find out in 2015 when the first GT86 CS-R3s run in anger.

Podium contenders or not, they'll be sure to win over the popular vote and the return of sideways rally cars is something we can all, er, rally behind. Though given Subaru's rally heritage and 'share' in the car's development it might seem surprising Toyota has also claimed this aspect of the GT86/BRZ's motorsport ambitions.

Moving swiftly on, the car itself is a development of the TMG GT86 CS-V3 as raced against by our man Dale in the Nurburgring VLN series recently. You can see the full spec here on TMG's website. The basics are all the usual FIA-certified safety equipment (cage, seats, extinguishers, etc) and upgrades to the chassis including two-way tweakable Ohlins dampers, camber adjustment, additional brake cooling and a revised exhaust with racing cats. Engine and transmission on the 38,500 euros (plus VAT) V3 track car remain broadly standard with no claimed increase over the stock 200hp, the rally car taking this further with a sequential six-speed gearbox and further unspecified mods to engine, suspension and brakes.

Rally car will get a proper sequential 'box
Rally car will get a proper sequential 'box
"Rallying is in our blood at TMG so it is very exciting to announce that we will be expanding our rally operations," says Nico Ehlert, TMG's chief engineer for Customer Motorsport. "The GT86 CS-R3 promises to be a thrilling car on the rally stages; with rear-wheel drive we can expect some dramatic action which is sure to be entertaining for drivers and fans alike. We expect demand to be high so we are looking forward to seeing a lot of GT86 CS-R3 rally cars in action from the beginning of the 2015 season."

Likewise Nico, likewise!

 

 

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Beefmeister

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16,482 posts

230 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Fantastic news, can't wait to see these slithering around on the GB Rally!

rwindmill

430 posts

158 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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At last, a tiny glimmer of hope for the furture of rallying. I will watch with interest

tuffer

8,849 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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This is exactly what the WRC needs. All hail Toyota, the saviors of the WRC.

melvster

6,841 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Needs to be Castrol livery. Looks the part though and will hopefully make the WRC a lot more interesting.

chrisw666

22,655 posts

199 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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I hope they end up with a version running loads of power without turbos etc.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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That stripe on the roof and bonnet reminds of the GT3 RS 4.0

Amirhussain

11,488 posts

163 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Don't really think its gonna make a major difference in making WRC exciting again....

IAJO

231 posts

158 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Love to see loeb return for a season in this.

CBR JGWRR

6,531 posts

149 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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What the WRC needs is Pikes Peak machines...

chiark

118 posts

150 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Deserves a fanfare to celebrate. Perhaps a resounding "Ta daaaaaa".
(I'll get me coat, but this is awesome news. Subaru, are you still alive?)

Cupradan

42 posts

151 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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TMG???

Doesn't have the same ring as TRD.......then again, if you stuck a U in there........... biggrin

Monaro5.7

7,333 posts

179 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Fantastic news just what the sport need, now who will follow.

Great day for Rallying bounce

only1ian

688 posts

194 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Had a Toyota Corolla 1.6 SR with the full TTE kit on back in 2007 I sold it to Ireland for a silly amount if profit within weeks. Apparently a certain mr sainz made an impression in one on Irish soil

SR06

749 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Yay! *Punches air*

Blayney

2,948 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Like I said in the similar article about that elise rally car last year (that I've not seen since), I'd have a Darrian T90 instead.

Ollieb7

365 posts

198 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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YES! But why the 'proper' sequential box? WRC needs this but agree a bit of pikes peak no holds barred machinery would do too :-)

MantaMike

424 posts

251 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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melvster said:
Needs to be Castrol livery. Looks the part though and will hopefully make the WRC a lot more interesting.
Not real I know, but it looks great!




dlockhart

434 posts

172 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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isnt rwd only going to be significantly slower on gravel and mud over 4wd and fwd cars as the front tyres are not forced to rotate they have the turning ability of a couple of bricks if the front end gets bogged down. This will be amazing on the tarmac stages though.

I am basing this on my experiance of getting a sporst car stuck in snow and muddy fields rather than any actual rally exp

Nors

1,291 posts

155 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Whilst this is a welcome addition and without trying to be the party pooper, this isn't really going to do anything against the opposition.

Nice to watch (at the back of the field) if nothing else.

Saviour of WRC? No chance!!

only1ian

688 posts

194 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Castrol livery all the way