Nearly killed a motorcyclist this morning
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People saying he should have looked should look themselves, at what he wrote, he has already said that he did look. It's evident from the reported facts that the biker was moving forward faster than the OP, in a situation like that, he was in effect trying to overtake on the wrong side. No wonder he was ready on the horn.
As a biker, I can confirm he was doing nothing wrong and you were entirely wrong, unless he did something wrong and it wasn't your fault. In which case I blame BMW drivers, unless it was the Audi drivers fault...if this is indeed the case, it was probably that white van mans fault which the Audi driver passed 10 miles further back which created an unstoppable chain of events. So thinking about it...bloody lorry drivers eigh 
If a bike is squeezing between lanes 2 and 3 overtaking some cars and undertaking others than the cyclist is putting themselves in harms way.
It's fair enough in stationary traffic - but in moving traffic it's just dangerous.
And, while I don't wish injury on anyone, I'd have very little sympathy for a biker who was knocked off by a car moving from lane 3 to 2 while the bike was trying to undertake.
Edit - for an epic typing failure.
It's fair enough in stationary traffic - but in moving traffic it's just dangerous.
And, while I don't wish injury on anyone, I'd have very little sympathy for a biker who was knocked off by a car moving from lane 3 to 2 while the bike was trying to undertake.
Edit - for an epic typing failure.
Edited by Snowboy on Thursday 21st November 10:19
Snowboy said:
If a bike is squeezing between lanes 2 and 3 overtaking some cars and undertaking others than the cyclist is putting themselves in harms way.
It's fair enough in stationary traffic - but in micibg traffic it's just dangerous.
And, while I don't wish injury on anyone, I'd have very little sympathy for a biker who was knocked off by a car moving from lane 3 to 2 while the bike was trying to undertake.
Agreed.It's fair enough in stationary traffic - but in micibg traffic it's just dangerous.
And, while I don't wish injury on anyone, I'd have very little sympathy for a biker who was knocked off by a car moving from lane 3 to 2 while the bike was trying to undertake.
Especially in micibg traffic.
Snowboy said:
If a bike is squeezing between lanes 2 and 3 overtaking some cars and undertaking others than the cyclist is putting themselves in harms way.
It's fair enough in stationary traffic - but in micibg traffic it's just dangerous.
And, while I don't wish injury on anyone, I'd have very little sympathy for a biker who was knocked off by a car moving from lane 3 to 2 while the bike was trying to undertake.
I filter through slow moving traffic between L2 & 3 every day (unless it's a four lane Mway obviously, then between L3&4). It's why I commute by bike & it's perfectly legal of course. Not everyone likes sitting in traffic going nowhere fast like all the other sheep. It's fair enough in stationary traffic - but in micibg traffic it's just dangerous.
And, while I don't wish injury on anyone, I'd have very little sympathy for a biker who was knocked off by a car moving from lane 3 to 2 while the bike was trying to undertake.
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I filter through slow moving traffic between L2 & 3 every day (unless it's a four lane Mway obviously, then between L3&4). It's why I commute by bike & it's perfectly legal of course. Not everyone likes sitting in traffic going nowhere fast like all the other sheep.
You said 'slow moving traffic' - that's fine.The op said he was overtaking traffic himself - I infer from that it wasn't slow moving traffic.
There is a world of difference between filtering in slow moving traffic vs weaving through busy moving traffic.
RemyMartin said:
Your story makes no sense, things don't just appear. This is down to poor observation. Sure you looked but I bet you didn't give more than a seconds glance in your blind spot.
Lucky the motorcyclist has better reactions.
Who in their right mind looks back for more than a second whilst traveling at 70? Stupid thing to say!Lucky the motorcyclist has better reactions.
Dog Star said:
It's why I avoid commuting in the dark; in heavy traffic your headlights are just lost in the sea of lights behind. If it's raining it's a lot worse and you're almost invisible, and as a biker I appreciate that with the best will in the world that car drivers might not see you even if they are being very careful.
I find vilifying drivers for honest mistakes to be rather harsh.
x2I find vilifying drivers for honest mistakes to be rather harsh.
the biker shouldnt be lingering in a cars blindspot for more than needed to pass,if not then he should have backed out of it.
Mave said:
Yep, but it's also daft to position yourself in someone's blind spot, especially when it's dark and wet.
And how do you know what every other car's blind spot is?If the OP is changing lanes, it's up to him to make sure it is safe to carry out that manoeuvre - that's how the law will see it.
So, no harm done, no need to roll out the firing squad, but the OP should be improving his observation, as I'm sure he will be. It also helps the speed with which you change lanes - if you move across slowly, rather than flick the steering wheel F1-stylee, you give everyone a bit more time to react.
If you overtake a blue car, then look in your mirror and see that blue car behind you, then it should be safe to change lanes.
Afaik there is no legal way at 50mph a bike should be able to get in front of the blue car.
If a biker is bending or breaking rules of the road then they are responsible for thier own safety.
Afaik there is no legal way at 50mph a bike should be able to get in front of the blue car.
If a biker is bending or breaking rules of the road then they are responsible for thier own safety.
RemyMartin said:
Your story makes no sense, things don't just appear. This is down to poor observation. Sure you looked but I bet you didn't give more than a seconds glance in your blind spot.
Lucky the motorcyclist has better reactions.
FFS so the OP's in the wrong and the biker's a fLucky the motorcyclist has better reactions.
king driving god?Jesus Christ.
The biker was wrong. End of. Weaving through 50mph traffic is not filtering. Anyone thinking it is is either retarded or incredibly ignorant.
RemyMartin said:
Your story makes no sense, things don't just appear. This is down to poor observation. Sure you looked but I bet you didn't give more than a seconds glance in your blind spot.
I've been riding bikes for almost 30 years, and I like to think that I don't hang about. I don't get knocked off either, because I don't expect people to have eyes in the back of their heads or expect bikes to be filtering through at speed. I might do it (the filtering) myself, but on my head be it.The post above is just plain stupid.
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